Rivals doubts IU football


The good folks over at rivals.com are counting down FBS football from No. 120 all the way to No. 1. It’s a fun list, and a crowd-pleasing way to pass the summer months.

Well, Indiana football did make the list – at No. 79. Ouch. From the Big Ten, only Minnesota fared worse.

The crux of the argument against the Hoosiers seems to be the uncertain future of quarterback Kellen Lewis. Should Lewis return, everything is fine and dandy. Without him, this team “becomes ordinary quickly,” Tom Dienhart writes.

Here’s the good news: Indiana is better than N.C. State. I watched the Wolfpack flounder through 12 games last season, and saw a lack of real, game-changing talent during the Spring Game. And rivals.com has the Pack listed at No. 68, 11 spots higher than the Hoosiers. So there’s at least one team above Indiana that should not be.

And remember, it could always be worse – the Golden Panthers of Florida International come in dead last.

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55 comments:

  • HuskyTom says:

    Pretty generous rating if you ask me. We’ll lose 7 games with Kellen, 9 games with Chappell. This is what happens when a school like IU puts all its (rotten) eggs in one basket (the basketball program). Let’s look to Kansas and UConn as examples of basketball schools that realize that football is also important and can be a huge revenue boon.

  • Steve O says:

    Wow HuskyTom, I actually agree with you. IU needs to wake up and realize they need to put more into the football program. Indiana is a basketball school traditionaly, but people in Indiana also love football, and some really good talent has come from the state. Hell, Rex Grossman is from B-Town. But of course that type of talent would never even think of coming to IU.

    The revenue part would be huge. The facilities need upgrades to stay on the same level with the rest of the country’s top programs.

    Also agreed on the fact that Lewis is pivotal. If he can’t return, we’ll be lucky to win a game, and that’s taking into consideration the fact we scheduled another soft non-conference schedule.

  • Mikie says:

    Uh if you dont remember, Rex actually sucks..hello? His dad got him into UF and flourished in a system that any passer would have done well. Just look at his poor pro career. Back to IU…they had a chance to pay for a top coach, whether it be a big name or an up and comer, but they blew it, and went with the emotional choice. We might have a good record this year, but itll mean nothing with this schedule

  • IU Jimmy says:

    Good Lord. The comments section here is becoming as bad as YouTube. Our “fans” always seem to find something to complain about. So if we win 8-9 games this year, you won’t enjoy it? It will “mean nothing”? What’s the excuse going to be in 09 when we play UM, OSU, and South Florida? If we continue to improve, are you going to complain that we should’ve played Texas and USC?
    Steve O, you realize that we ARE upgrading the facilities, right?
    And by the way HuskyTom, Kansas’ great year last year was their coach’s 6th season at KU. Here is Mangino’s records prior to last year: 2-10, 6-7, 4-7, 7-5, 6-6. In the Hep / Lynch era, we have gone 4-7, 5-7, and 7-5. Things are improving, so if you want to compare us to Kansas, give Lynch some time.

  • badboy says:

    God I hate IU “basketball fans”. Stop talking about the football program please. 9 losses with Chappell? You’re assuming we lose to a MAC team (we’ve won 19 straight against MAC teams) or a team that was 1-AA two years ago?

    Steele ranked IU 11th in the conference. That’s even worse. How anyone doesn’t see a minimum of 6 wins with this schedule is beyond me.

  • alex says:

    know them since hs…lynch and his kid were always arrogant at btown south. struttin around like he owned the place…btw he stunk as a player too. so yeah i wanted a new coach. you can have your opinion too. 3 yrs down the road and the program will still be at the bottom

  • IU Jimmy says:

    Yes, Bill Lynch just SCREAMS arrogance.

    [ / sarcasm ]

  • badboy says:

    LMAO Lynch is one of the most humble guys I have ever met, you’ve got to be kidding me. He’s not my first choice for our coach but if keeping Lynch meant keeping stability and keeping our current staff, then I’m all for it, especially since we’re paying him essentially nothing.

    Maybe Jim Harbaugh comes here down the line now that we have his sister living in Bloomington with Crean. That would be AWESOME, but I’m dreaming again. Why would anyone EVER leave Palo Alto?

  • Btown says:

    Don’t forget, Harbaugh’s wife is from Indy, I believe and it ddefinitely wouldn’t hurt with his sister being married to Crean.

  • Mike says:

    Wow! I’ve not read so many negative, not to mention ignorant comments in quite a while. Coach Lynch is more than qualified to lead this team. Why don’t you guys just back off. Give the man another season. IU football is emerging. If you don’t like IU football, go somewhere else.

  • bhss73 says:

    Gosh… last year when I commented that IU had less B 10 championships than the University of Chicago who quit the big ten like 70 years ago, I got hammered. Maybe the folks at rivals.com know more about IUFB than some of the folks who post here…. IU football has always been and always will be second fiddle to the BB program. When IU fb draws 35k a game and folks think thats alot, when the only time it sells out is when OSU or UW show up with their fans, I could go on, but the fact is that IU wont ever be a FB school.

  • Scott says:

    Exactly. Lynch was a terrible hire, but who else would want to come coach at IU? We are terrible and will always be terrible. Some of you can still dream, but maybe you will come down to reality at some point in the future.

  • Michael says:

    WOW!!! The enthusiasm and optimism on this message board is stimulating!! Next thing we know the end of the world will turn out to be a GOOD thing!

  • ZachRoyse says:

    Don’t we have enough problems keeping the basketball program up? I am all for keeping the football at mediocricy until we get another Final Four…then think football. It all has to do with in-state guys (which will be hard with Purdue and Notre Dame) as well as the southern kids(which will be even harder). We were lucky to have the combo of James Hardy and Kellen Lewis. We got back to a bowl game, isn’t that what we wanted? It is going to be hard to play Terry Hep’s game through Billy Lynch.

  • IU Jimmy says:

    “I am all for keeping the football at mediocricy until we get another Final Four…then think football.”

    That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. When did this site get taken over by 12 year olds? We have ridiculous rants, complaints about not being like Kansas (even though Lynch / Hep have had more wins and the same amount of bowl appearances in three years as Kansas did in Mangino’s first three years), and only wanting one program to be successful at a time. Outstanding…really guys, great work.

    bhss73, the Purdue game last year sold out and we had the vast majority of fans. And who said anything about being a “football school”? Its Indiana, everyone loves basketball, and that’s great. That doesn’t mean we can’t be good at both sports.

  • Caleb says:

    Nobody is saying it has to be better than the BB team, but it is back to respectability. We beat PU and made a bowl game to honor coach Hep. How you all forgot that already is beyond me. Austin Starr’s game winning field goal was a better moment than anything that happened on the basketball court all year for God’s sake.

    Lewis will be back and IU Football is going to continue its upward trend despite what some of you “fans” think will happen. Just look at the level of prospects we are attracting now compared to just last year. The bowl game and the new facilities are working. The snowball has starter rolling and this thing is only going to be getting bigger and better, so pull your heads out of your asses and get behind your Hoosiers. You only make your fellow fan base and the team look bad if not.

  • IU Jimmy says:

    I honestly find it amazing that so many “fans” actually criticize people for supporting IU football. Aren’t we all IU fans? We just had our best season in 15 years, despite the death of a coach, and we’ve had increased our win totals in each of the last 3 years. And yet, constant cheap shots are posted. I don’t get it.

  • Caleb says:

    NO ZachRoyse, that is not what I want. I want consistent Big Ten relevance. That is the first goal. After that, we move up from there.

    Just attend a BT game this year. Give it a chance and you will see a football game has as many good points as a basketball game does. Especially this coming year.

  • Mark W. says:

    You know, Bill Mallory had a very impressive run at IU until he let his Off. Coord. take to much control. Mallory was a “meat & potatoes” guy… recruited Indiana, Ohio and Illinois really strong and while he may not have always sold out Memorial Stadium he had 40,000+ for even the poor games. IU needs to get back to basics. I think Billy Lynch is mediocre at best, but I hope he can get it done. Who was the top notch coach we DID NOT get?

  • HuskyTom says:

    IU Jimmy- I agree with much of what you say, especially when you lambaste whoever said that we should concentrate on one sport only. Also, you’re point about Mangino is a good one (although you will have a much tougher time trying to make that point with UConn or Illinois (1-11 two years ago, bottom of conference, then the Rose Bowl and a win over OSU the following year)).

    Now, where you are out of line is your ranting and raving about the “12 year-olds” and the “negativity” on this forum. If you haven’t noticed, forums aren’t churches where we all come to blindly pray to a team and say only positive things. They are places where positive and negative fans alike can exchange ideas, vent their frustrations, and try to convince each other of differing points of view. Calm down a bit, and enjoy the banter.

  • Juan Blanco says:

    Like it or not, Lynch is our coach. Have at least a little faith in him.

  • Eric says:

    I also find it ridiculous for an alleged fan to only want one sport to be good at one time. Look at Tennessee–men’s hoops drew less than women’s until Bruce Pearl got there, and now they’re all about the men’s basketball team. Football will always be king, but basketball is big now as well. Why wouldn’t you want the same thing in reverse, with BB as the big sport and football good as well, at IU??

    Perhaps someone can tell me, are IU and Kentucky never going to play again? If so, why not?? Is that rivalry meaningless for both schools/states?

  • Eric says:

    I was referring to the IU-Kentucky football series, the Bourbon Barrel game, not the basketball rivalry, of course. On that front, I hope the series continues to alternate between Bloomington and Lexington.

  • kurk81 says:

    You folks complaining about our schedule should look at the schedules of other B10 teams, and the schedules of the top BCS teams. Ours is no less difficult than Ohio State or Michigan or Penn State. The same opening weekend that we play W.Kentucky, Iowa plays Maine, Ohio State plays Youngstown State and Penn State plays Coastal Carolina. How many Wisconsin fans are bitching and moaning about their non-conference schedule of Akron, Marshall, Fresno, and that traditional final-game-of-the-season Clash of the Titans with Cal Poly? Get a clue, folks, this is how BCS teams do non-conference schedules – if we want ‘relevancy’ this is how schedules are done. Only Division II schools ‘buy’ attention by scheduling monsters for non-conference games. The OSU-SoCal and Michigan-ND games are becoming rare.

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