Rick Greenspan and how you’ll remember him


We ran this story on departing athletic director Rick Greenspan in the paper today. It’s long, but I think worth a read. I’ll paste it after the jump for all the non-subscribers who are hastening our demise.

Rick Greenspan was introduced as Indiana’s new athletic director on Sept. 3, 2004.

He became the fourth person to hold the job in a span of about four years following long-time basketball coach Bob Knight’s cantankerous parting with the university.

Stability was on Greenspan’s mind that day.

“I’m honored and privileged to be here today, and for a long time,” he said.

Whether a tenure of just over four years counts as a “long time” is part of a debate that Greenspan hopes to lend his voice to. He’s worried about the frequency with which coaches and athletic directors change jobs — voluntary or otherwise.

Whether Greenspan achieved stability is a debate to be waged mostly by those he’ll leave behind when he steps away later this week. Greenspan announced his resignation, effective at the end of the year, in June on the same day the school revealed it had been charged with “failure to monitor” by the NCAA. Greenspan has vigorously denied that his compliance department failed to provide proper oversight of basketball coach Kelvin Sampson, who arrived from Oklahoma fresh off recruiting violations there, as the committee on infractions ruled.

It probably is not as revealing as his detractors will have you believe that the final two games Greenspan presided over in the marquee sports of football and men’s basketball were two of the most embarrassing losses in school history. The football team lost 62-10 to Purdue to finish a 3-9 season. The basketball team lost to Lipscomb 74-69, setting off talk in some corners of the possibility of a winless Big Ten season.

That football program, though, endured the loss of Terry Hoeppner — a Greenspan hire — to brain cancer. Bill Lynch led the players through their grief and to a bowl for the first time since 1993.

That basketball program endured allegations of major violations by Sampson and his staff, then Sampson’s resignation destroyed a promising season and Tom Crean was hired to sift through the rubble.

Both will move into new facilities made possible by Greenspan’s financial acumen. The athletic department reported a $6.2 million dollar surplus for the last fiscal year; its deficit was $5 million when Greenspan took over. He’s grown the annual budget by $17 million during his tenure, though it still lags behind most in the Big Ten. The major construction projects at Memorial Stadium and next to Assembly Hall are the first of their kind since the early 1970s and are essential for two sports in which recruiting has become increasingly cutthroat.

Ultimately, Greenspan’s legacy hinges on the issue of culpability in the hiring of Sampson. Though e-mails obtained by The Herald-Times in April included a note from Greenspan that indicated that former President Adam Herbert and a group of trustees pushed the hiring of Sampson — “As you and I have confidentially discussed, a couple of trustees and (the) President have more than fingerprints on this,” he wrote. “I think you are well aware of the circumstances that got us to this point.” — Greenspan has repeatedly declined to discuss the hire. He’s also chafed at the NCAA’s opinion that he and his staff failed in their compliance duties after Sampson arrived.

Because Greenspan’s replacement, Fred Glass, is coming from a law firm and not another athletic department, it seems unlikely that there will be immediate turnover in key positions at Assembly Hall. Greenspan moved quickly to assemble a senior staff of close confidants, including deputy athletic director Tim Fitzpatrick and associate athletic directors Grace Calhoun, Jack Garrett and Janet Kittell.

His son, Ben, has been working with the Hoosiers baseball team (he was a member of the team and is an Indiana graduate) and could stay in Bloomington.

Greenspan sat down Sunday before the Lipscomb game to discuss his plans for the future (first on the agenda: a few weeks of vacation and trips to see friends and family) and his thoughts on his career at Indiana. He was fascinating, if provocative. As always.

His legacy will be difficult to define.

And his impact inescapable.

Q: What’s next for you?

A: I’m going to stay involved in college athletics. That’s my passion. That’s really all I have ever done is worked on a college campus. I’ll stay involved in some way. I’m considering two or three different things, uncertain right now what I’ll do, but I owe it to Jenny and myself and get some sun and exhale for the first time in about four years, and then have some very strong feelings that I would like to be involved in perhaps in a way of serving as a slight catalyst, perhaps for some change that I think is necessary in our business, based on a lot of things. That’s my goal and we’ll see where it takes us.

Q: You’ve talked about being an agent of change for problems ranging from rapid turnover in the coaching world to the NCAA’s penchant for catching phone call violations and missing or being unable to prosecute payments to recruits and academic fraud. How do you plan on helping to solve some of these long-standing problems?

A: I don’t know that you can eradicate it. I think there is a lot more good and a lot more people of honesty and integrity in this business than are given credit because I think the stink smells so bad that it overwhelms a lot of good people, very honestly. But the enterprise of college athletics I think has grown from a visibility and a financial perspective so dramatically in 15 or 20 years that I think the stakes are higher. And I think when the stakes are higher people play for keeps and I think when people are given unreasonable deadlines or unreasonable expectations for success that inevitably people’s integrity or their wisdom gets modified and you end up with all kinds of problems. And so I think most of our business, but this is probably true in most businesses, comes down to trust. Personally what I’ve seen at the highest level is there’s a decreasing amount of trust. And I’m not a sociologist, but whether its trust from an athletic director to and from coaches or presidents to athletic directors or presidents to trustees or media members, there seems to be a great deal of cynicism and I think some of that is good and some of that is appropriate because I think it does help you become introspective and improve and I think some of it is a result of tremendous growth in salaries and certainly in a couple of sports and the very short life-spans of presidents. I think the average state college president probably lasts not more than four years and so the continuity that people are looking for, the stability that people are looking for, the ability to say we’re going to take something and build it, I just don’t know that there’s a lot of patience for that when a coach is getting X million dollars a year, or athletic directors are here and gone. I think the challenge is the restoration of trust, but like the most difficult of problems it doesn’t come easily.

Q: Is it still fun working in athletics?

A: It’s different. As with most people as you get older, I probably have stronger feelings about what I really like and what I don’t like and I think that’s probably just somewhat natural as you get older. Your experiences say “this is what I like doing.” I probably like the work with coaches and student athletes and faculty members more than I ever have. In many ways, I find it very endearing to be in the arena with them and share in a small part their successes and try and be supportive during the times where they fail. To be in the basketball locker room after our game a couple weeks ago when they played well and beat TCU was terrific. It was just a great feeling of success even though in years past perhaps that would have been just another game. I appreciate that more and more. I find there’s greater criticism of coaches and criticism of administrative decisions frequently before there is a reasonable chance to determine an outcome. I look at the Auburn situation and I look at their hiring of a football coach (Gene Chizik). The folks that are already proclaiming disaster before there’s been a practice and I think that’s become somewhat common and I don’t know that you change it. We have to do a better job — administrators have to do a better job — of how communication takes place. I think most people have a good sense that newspapers are dying and that they won’t be around indefinitely when you look at what’s taking place in printed publications be it in newspapers or (magazines). I look at the newspapers to some extent like I look at Pony Express or the telegraph. They’re just dying. There’s a faster way to communicate. So without being perhaps critical or cynical I think most newspapers have become a little more regionalized because they feel like that’s the place where they can specialize and I think they are also looking for ways of defining themselves and sometimes that comes from breaking a story and that, unfortunately I think, puts them in competition with the Internet. The Internet, we know, has very little in terms of journalistic ethics. There are very few requirements. It’s an unregulated mass media. So I think the whole journalistic integrity as a way of being first rather than right has changed the relationship between writers and coaches and administrators. You’ve heard it: guys taking pictures at practice and e-mailing those out. So coaches close practice more and more. The world moves so fast, we just have to find a better way of dealing with it.

Q: There seemed to be an outcry from disgruntled football fans on that unregulated Internet. What did you make of their reaction to coach Bill Lynch?

A: I don’t want to sound naive about it. I read a lot but it’s not normally what people would think. I don’t want to be a person who sticks his head in the sand and pretends that things don’t happen but I truly believe if you read too much you get anesthetized to what your decision should be because you start giving too much credit to different things. I would be disingenuous if I didn’t say that Bill’s not the sexiest guy out there. And I’ve known that. I’ve known it since I’ve known Bill. But I think there are a lot of very successful coaches that I wouldn’t view as sexy. If you know a Jim Tressel (the coach at Ohio State) and even (Penn State coach) Joe Paterno has become probably more interesting as he’s taken an attitude of “What they heck, what are they going to do to me?” He’s become outspoken over the years. So that’s not a quality that’s particularly important to me if somebody has a strong personality to recruit. You’ve gotta be able to sell. There’s a difference between Bill and Terry Hoeppner, and I think we were all bitterly saddened when Terry passed away. Terry, in my mind, was absolutely the right guy at the right time because he was a head coach who brought just about an entire staff with him and Terry, in the most endearing way, was a carnival barker. He’d travel the state to speak to two people in an American Legion Hall. I think Bill is every bit of the coach that Terry was. I think Bill is a guy that has terrific integrity. I think some of the criticism of Bill that I have seen is two-sided. There’s seems to be those that feel like Bill had nothing to do with taking this team to the bowl game and that was all of Terry’s team. And there are others who feel like last year was Bill’s team and this year obviously was his team so he’s responsible for us having a declining number of wins. And I don’t think you can have it both ways. I think if Bill came in and last year, for the first time in 13 years, took us to a bowl then give the guy the benefit of the doubt. We had a crappy year. If last year’s team was Terry’s team, then this is Bill’s first year and give him the benefit of the doubt. The great thing about coaching is that the scoreboards at the end of the day and the end of the year don’t lie and I don’t think there’s a coach out there who doesn’t know there’s sand going through the hourglass and winning enough games means you turn that hourglass over and start with a new bucket of sand. I think Bill is a terrific coach, I think he’s a terrific guy, I think he did a marvelous job last year of holding together a team that I know personally was very, very fragile and quite honestly even before last year even started I think he did a terrific job because Terry had been sick and in and out and it’s hard for a staff to deal with from a recruiting perspective and positional changes and all the rest. I’m not sure where the chatter comes from other than I do think that some who spend all their waking hours on chat boards probably need to have a little variety in their life.

Q: Do you feel good, in general, about where the athletic department is as you prepare to leave?

A: I’m very, very disappointed that this institution had to ever deal with a major infractions case. That’s saying it kindly. I don’t think the institution deserved it. I don’t think it’s part of the environment or the culture of this institution as evidenced by a half a century of major-infraction-free compliance. So that’s very disappointing. I think (basketball coach) Tom (Crean) is as close to the perfect guy again at the perfect time. I think he’s got great Midwest values. He’s really high integrity. He’s a terrific salesman. He’s a terrific coach. He will get this program very competitively healthy without sacrificing the integrity that I think people expect. Other than that — which is like the old joke “Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how’d you like the play?” — I think this is a department with some very, very good people that in many cases toil in great anonymity. I think (women’s basketball coach) Felisha (Legette-Jack) is a wonderful coach and an inspirational leader. I think (baseball coach) Tracy Smith is a terrific coach. I think our new softball coach (Michelle Gardner) will do great things and is a wonderful, wonderful person. I think there’s some very good people and I think there’s some cash now to make some decisions. It’s very costly to be poor. This institution was poor for a very long time. Lack of resources contributes to making bad decisions at times. I’m pleased, excited to see the new facilities come up. Perhaps one that I’ll be the most excited about is the academic center, which gets no visibility but we’re so woefully behind in facilities there that they will have a dramatic impact. I like the effort that our people put in academically. I like the higher level of accountability. And I think an athletic department is a little bit like a tomato seed and you try to pick it up with a fork and it’s just always moving. We’ve got 650 athletes and 24 teams. One day is a great day and the next day is not such a great day. It wasn’t such a great day a week or so ago when a couple of our football players made an egregious decision. If the allegations prove true, it’s stupid. It’s below us. And, quite honestly, I know for Bill and for me it’s personally hurtful because there’s no lack of education there about what the right stuff is. But I think it’s been an athletic department that has grown and will continue to grow and will have to grow significantly to stay in a fighting stance against the competition in this league.

Q: Your buyout from the university gave you the right to write a book about your experience. Will you write it? Is that how you’ll get catharsis?

A: There’s been a tremendous amount of things that has happened in these years and like most administrative jobs I think some of it is self inflicted and some of it is environmental. I’ve never pitied myself. That’s probably one of the least attractive human attributes is self-pity. I really have felt honored to be here and be the athletic director. I might write a book and then burn it. Just to get some things down. I will certainly do some writing but my interest I think is, because this has been my business, is in some way to try to make it better. I look at young professionals that were probably me 30 years ago and I’ve had a lot of conversations with my peers, athletic directors that have been in the business 30 years, about what are the challenges and how do we make sure that what most people think is the proper culture is developed or grows. That’s exciting to me looking forward. I think I’ll do a little work there and a little writing. I certainly like being on a college campus and consider a number of faculty here good friends. Deans and provosts and people who maybe are fans you wouldn’t expect. I’ve been at some very, very good schools academically at West Point and Cal and certainly Indiana and I’m inspired by the challenge of having to think on their level at times to justify why we do things. I think that’s a neat thing about being on a college campus. It’s mentally stimulating.

Q: So you’re set on returning to an athletic department somewhere?

A: I think so. I’d like to. I want to. And I want to work at a place that has values and a degree of integrity that I would subscribe to. I don’t think this is a revelation but I think it’s becoming more critical that the relationship that you have with some of your major coaches and then the relationship that you have with your president and chancellor go further in determining whether it’s a good job or not than they used to. When challenging times or crisis hit — whether it’s the death of a coach or infractions — if everybody’s blinking then you’ve probably got problems. You need somebody that is going to stand there with you in a model of sophisticated understanding of the complexities of this business now. That’s important to me. I’ve had and hopefully will have opportunities to do that but I’m also excited about literally taking a few weeks and reading and writing and doing a few things I haven’t been able to do.

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74 comments:

  • The man is completely delusional.

    Question by question, his world, in his own words, and then reality.

    “serving as a slight catalyst, perhaps for some change”
    -He sees himself in the future as the Barrack Obama of the NCAA.

    “when the stakes are higher people play for keeps and I think when people are given unreasonable deadlines or unreasonable expectations for success that inevitably people’s integrity or their wisdom gets modified and you end up with all kinds of problems.”
    -“Unreasonable” expectations and deadlines “modified” his wisdom and integrity because the stakes were high?!? He F’d up and lost an important job because he was incapable of doing what IU paid him to do.

    “I find there’s greater criticism of coaches and criticism of administrative decisions frequently before there is a reasonable chance to determine an outcome.”
    -He does not like being held to account by anyone, and his failures are the fault of the media and the internet.

    “Bill’s not the sexiest guy out there. And I’ve known that.”…”You’ve gotta be able to sell.”
    -Without Bill, he couldn’t have cashed in on Hep’s legacy, and he knows this risky bet has crapped out. True to form, he prefers to toss out insults, innuendos, and intimidation rather than address legitimate disagreements.

    “I think that’s a neat thing about being on a college campus. It’s mentally stimulating.”
    -His other car is a short bus.

    “There’s been a tremendous amount of things that has happened in these years and like most administrative jobs I think some of it is self inflicted and some of it is environmental.”
    -He knows in his heart of hearts that his F-ups were his fault, but his book will allow him to rewrite a favorable history of his tenure here and sling some mud.

    “When challenging times or crisis hit — whether it’s the death of a coach or infractions — if everybody’s blinking then you’ve probably got problems. You need somebody that is going to stand there with you in a model of sophisticated understanding of the complexities of this business now.”
    -He thinks it was perfectly o.k. for him to turn his back on Sampson, after strongly supporting him and initially choosing to let Kelvin coach the season, but he’s pissed McRobbie pulled a play from his book and used it on him.

    This one’s getting its own Chronicle. Check back later.

    Oh, yeah….buh-bye, Rick!

  • Chris Korman says:

    Chronic,

    I’m enjoying the new blog and eagerly await your thoughts on this.

    And, Happy New Year.

  • Bill says:

    The thing about it is most people will point to Greenspan for bringing in Sampson, when Sampson wasn’t even remotely close to being on his list of coaching candidates. Who wanted Sampson? Our last president pulled the trigger on that hire. The decision is pointed at the AD because of his job, but this call wasn’t his.

  • Pleased to hear I’ve got a reader. Don’t want to disappoint, but this one’s going to take some time. Great New Year the Scoop and its readers! Happy to guarantee we won’t lose another game all year!

  • peegs_anti_reverse_pick_pocket says:

    Chronic, you need to take Greenies advice and get some “variety” 😉 Tisk tisk, he needs to get on board and research the demographics of online users…let me wrap it up for him, nearly 100% of the educated IU fanbase is online. I guess we are all geeks with no lives, and no basis for evaluating IU sports.

  • ww says:

    Gotta give Rick a thumb sideways. I believe he was behind some good things for the athletic dept, but I also think he made some poor choices. He attempted to throttle compliance and it backfired on him. Bad move. His early fires and hires peeved a lot of folks. It was a tough job in a tumultous situation. I don’t envy Glass.

    Quick check on the Chronic site is thumbs up. I spent way too much time there. HNY to all.

  • Aruss says:

    “for all the non-subscribers who are hastening our demise.” Hate to get off topic of IU sports for a second but this is what I do for a living and couldn’t pass up your comment.

    Check this out: http://www.quantcast.com/heraldtimesonline.com
    vs
    http://www.quantcast.com/indiana.rivals.com

    Y’all get 90,000 visitors vs Peegs 25,000. Now if the New York Times can’t get their online business model to be profitable there isn’t much hope for a small town newspaper except one that has a unique quality. Y’all have IU which has a very specialized segment willing to subscribe for unique information and is tailored for highly desirable marketing but while Peegs is part of an ad network that has ads for chevy y’all have ads for IU opera theater.

    In your Quantcast profile, your site is using quantcast tags but don’t allow public access to the geography reports. It would be interesting to see the percent of visitors outside of Indiana and how you can adjust your ads accordingly and think about a business model that increases outside indiana subscribers based on unique info alas peegs and hoosier nation.

  • Hoosier Hound says:

    Too many in the Hoosier faithful don’t realize what we had and what we’re losing in Greenspan. He’s being run off because of his perpetually incompetent lame duck former boss’ (Herbert) decision.

    The accomplishments of Greenspan: the increased profitability, the north end zone, the basketball facility, and coaches like Coach Jack and Coach Smith will endure long after the ruble left by Sampson is cleaned up. Unfortunately I doubt credit will then be given in equal portions to the blame that is so freely given now.

  • peegs_anti_reverse_pick_pocket says:

    acument? profits? Might want to look at how big the Big Ten Network deal is. Then come back and tell us the miracles he worked in bringing profits to IU. Especially football.

  • JSS says:

    Rick, don’t let the door hit you on the way out !

  • Wisco says:

    Rick seems like a nice guy and did some good things, certainly better than some of his predecessors. But, he oversaw one of the biggest F ups of IU athletic history. Whether it was his call or not, he has to go, and I think he understands that.

    Appreciated the question “there seems to be an outcry from disgruntled football fans on the unregulated internet.” Errr…..everywhere but Peegs.

  • D-5 says:

    Did you find the email?

  • D-5 says:

    I guess you did find the email to Scott…So long, Korman. You’re a decent guy…Please don’t take the criticisms I wrote on Hoosier Hype to heart…You and Dopirak are very good at your profession. I was going off-topic a lot.

    Downing’s 5th

  • Chris Korman says:

    Downing,

    I never found the e-mail. Just thought it’d been long enough and, you’re right, it’s not like it settled down a whole lot here. Not sure what to do next.

  • D-5 says:

    And why did you remove that last post?..It had the e-mail details.

  • D-5 says:

    e-mail details:

    to sschurz @ heraldt.com
    date Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:18 PM
    subject “Your comment is awaiting moderation”
    mailed-by gmail.com

    Dear Scott,

    I am contacting you regarding an issue I am having with Hoosier Scoop….I have been locked out of posting comments on the HTO’s sports blogging site and feel a bit befuddled to the reasoning that prompted such action..Every post receives the message prompt: “Your comment is awaiting moderation” and then is deleted.

    Other than being a “cantankerous” pain in the posterior, I sure wish someone could tell me what I did to be locked out of The Scoop.

    Sincerely perplexed,

    Downing’s 5th

  • D-5 says:

    It was the e-mail link lighting up the comment moderator. Anyway, there’s the detail giving you the date, time, and recipient.

  • Chris Korman says:

    Downing,

    Not sure why we’re having this discussion here instead of through e-mail, which would seem to make sense.

    As I said, this supposed e-mail never reached me. Scott Schurz isn’t “an editor” at the H-T, and I have very, very, very little contact with him.

    Next time you have a complaint, just get in touch with me. It will be much more effective than e-mailing the retired publisher.

  • D-5 says:

    Guess I should have known that a guy on a current HT Contact List, with listed e-mail address, and Editor-in-Chief next to his name(the only such name to have the title usually synonymous with wearing fairly sizable big wig with office that has window with view) was nothing more than a measly retired publisher…I guess I’m also to assume E. Mayor Maloney fool of cheap bologna because he is listed as having Scott’s job…Please forgive for the misunderstanding completely due my idiocy. Please forgive me the lack of empathy to give complete justification the smugness and arrogance spewing from your tone…It’s certainly now more obvious why I would have no desire to correspond with you directly…My hunches were right on target..Your office is too small for your warranted impatient large ego …My occasional “off-topic” diversions far too trivial for the information blog headquarters dedicated only to the multitude topics of everything IU sports; a blog site now taken daily hostage by a guy representing the true entitlement First Amendment protection as he rightfully defecates on the name of an Indiana Hall of Fame Hoosier basketball player no matter title of thread or subject matter at hand. Wow. Sorry to be such hideous bother..Looks like it’s glaringly obvious you’ve already had quite the diet of tart introspection to serve me such huge slice your sweet humble pie.

    Very tiny off-topic message: If you’re going to do more video chats with Dustin, you should really do something about the receding hairline. Take a page out of a Matt Lauer’s beautician book…Hate to see you end up looking like a guy wearing a rainbow trout* on his noggin.

    H-T DEPARTMENT MANAGERS

    Scott Schurz, Sunday Hoosier Times/Editor-in-Chief
    812-331-4250

    E. Mayer Maloney Jr., Publisher
    (812) 331-4251

    *the “rainbow trout” hairstyle metaphor is under protected copyright and can only be used with the sole(not to be confused with flounder) written consent of a blogger from Seattle, the phrase originator appropriately and by no accident of coincidence sharing in a thinning cranial front lawn, known as Husky Tom.

  • Chris Korman says:

    Downing,

    I do see how you could get the impression that Scott’s still in charge. My mistake. Sorry about that.

    My tone was meant to be exasperated. I just don’t understand the bi-polar posting routine. You’ll rip us on Hoosier Hype while almost simultaneously saying on here that we do a good job.

    You’re a terrific, if wildly unfocused, writer. You do have interesting thoughts. I absolutely value your unique outlook. I understand that on this particular site, I’m “the man” and that you, and others, enjoy antagonizing. That part comes with the territory. It can even be fun, and I need to be held accountable.

    Frankly, though, your act is tired and not genuine. You strike me as being more interested in knowing the spotlight is on you than doing something worth the spotlight.

    This isn’t a First Amendment issue. I’m not taking away your freedom to speak, only this particular platform on which to do it. You couldn’t walk in the office tomorrow and demand to have a column published under the guise of freedom of speech.

    You’re the only person I’ve ever banned from posting, despite pressure from others in the building to be more restrictive.

    Thanks for the hair tip. I could stand to lose weight, and my blood pressure’s been high, too. I’ll just work on all of that when I can.

  • D-5 says:

    I think your criticisms are pretty accurate..I don’t have much accomplished worth of a spotlight and I may be more bipolar than you’ll ever have a heart to care.

    Then again, prejudice, bigotry, and the lack an even hand of kindness has never dimmed a bulb so bright it easily blinds the truth a despicable successful man.

    First, you banned without warning for uneven application of your rules….Second, you came to Hoosier Hype’s site making inferences I made no attempt to contact you which was complete public fabrication of truth in front of audience your position insures your “platform” of uncensored deception..You know very well the moderated attempts I was making through the Scoop blog that you purposefully ignored and likely mocked as I squirmed…Lastly, you’ve called me a liar with added dose of insult about a title of a person appearing as an “Editor-in-Chief” within your own organization.

    And now you try to minimize my comparative accomplishments with your personal judgements of my life’s desires so you can hang me from the rope your own lack of integrity. Your hollow mountain grows to shadow my firm green valley undeserving your sun.

  • Chris Korman says:

    D-5,

    Last time with this: I NEVER received an e-mail from you. I was NEVER forwarded an e-mail you sent to someone else in the organization. Did you ever hear from anyone here?

    I would have gladly explained your hiatus from commenting had you merely supplied a functioning e-mail. You insist on hiding in the shadows; that’s why the grass doesn’t grow.

    There are no posted rules here. I go by feeling. If I met somebody like you at a coffee shop and struck up a conversation and you acted the way you do regularly on here, I’d get up and walk away. Maybe we should write out rules, but until then I think I’ll just decide on a case-by-case basis. Your case? I don’t think you’re good for the site. I don’t think you honestly come here hoping to engage in thoughtful, relevant conversation. You hurt the quality of our blog.

    Nothing I’ve ever said has come close to touching on your life’s desires. You inflate and conflate repeatedly.

    If you are bi-polar, I hope you are getting help. I have had people who are very close to me deal with that, and have been heartened by how effective treatment has been.

  • D-5 says:

    I don’t spend a lot of time in sit-down coffee shops, but I do enjoy the occasional spin by the drive-thru window at Dunkin’ Donuts..Usually just a large with heavy dose of cream…three sugar packets, and two regular glazed.

    I’m probably not very good for your Hoosier Scoop site..And I’m glad you told me how you really feel. I doubt you would have been as honest in the professional constraints of an e-mail exchange..Blogs tend to take down barriers…With the tiny stage spotlight on only words, the dropping of first reactions and assessments each other based on titles/profession and discriminate eye, our real identities are cast like piles of indistinct briquettes into a fiery pit of charcoal confusion. People often show some very different sides once the match gets tossed to coal saturated with the fuel of feelings uninhibited..Far more flame roars up than you would ever engage in quaint coffee shops, the standard fare of a sports interview or suit and tie electronic exchanges.

    My father taught me tolerance..And though I had many on your blog that took my head off for being cantankerous and “wildly” different, I can look myself in an honest mirror to know I tried my best to not retaliate in same..You have a strong negative perception of me, but at least you’ve challenged yourself to engage and try to find some good in what you’ve always perceived with ill stomach..I really don’t think you took down your barriers from start. Maybe I’m wrong in feeling that way, but I sensed you didn’t want me on the blog from the beginning..And now in your final assessment, all has justified what you initially presumed about Downing…You’ve come up empty as suspected and intended… You won’t be the first to have such view on a blog, or on the street. The team of Korman memory cells has thoroughly combed the blogging crime scene. Never a Scoop case as this case brought to trial …Cut and dry….Downing is the worst case of any nutcase Judge Korman has required to sentence by a jury of his own smears. There’s not a strand of decent DNA in Downing to exonerate the ingrate of inflate and conflate. Send him away to Devil’s Hype Island! …But isn’t is rather strange that I’m portrayed as such a menace to the blogging society, but one of Scoop’s regulars is now taunting me at the place I intended to be my place of solitary exile…Why do you think that is, Chris? Why won’t they leave me alone? Why did this mystery blogger follow?(And we both know I’m not referring to Husky Tom). Such a nice added benefit to you to know have the mystery misfit posting less on Scoop…Ask one of your IDS friends if I’m responsible for the mess of rants, links, and ridiculousness occurring at end of this thread…There holds your truth not given by impartial jury… I know the misfit was responsible for a lot of your problems at Scoop…It’s the same blogger that prompted you to make the statement:

    “…..and, you’re right, it’s not like it settled down a whole lot here. Not sure what to do next.”

    We live in a lonely world of unforgiving and quick judgment… Though you paint quite the pathetic picture of me in your coffee shop analogy, I’m not so sure I should beat myself up too much…For I would never trade the one genuine friendship I made on a simple old blog…And far better I am to hear the harsh psychoanalysis and full portrayal my self-centered, bi-polar, and dysfunctional mannerisms delivered by the “real” Chris Korman…I like you much more now that I hear your honest voice and genuine beliefs…What a relief to hear at least one sincere voice than to have spent many years on here with the far more sorry and desperate souls commenting nicely about games of cherished sport, engaging ever so civil and politely(hope you realize some sarcasm there), and after all is said and done, I’m still doodling around having coffee shop conversation…I may have played the fool on your blog, but not such a fool to deceive myself in believing the truth behind the reason most seek these anonymous gathering holes away from the doldrums their detached daily existence…They come seeking nothing different than I. Unfortunately, like the blogger that came along as pair of shackles to my banished ankles from Scoop to Hoosier Hype, some just need it a little too much.

    Maybe the picture will become clearer. I doubt it.

  • D-5 says:

    correction: “Such a nice added benefit to you to [now] have the mystery misfit posting less on Scoop.”

  • Chris Korman says:

    Downing,

    This exchange would have been much more open and honest via e-mail. You still have the option of taking it there. Or of calling. Or even visiting. I make myself quite available to the public.

    Until then, take care.

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