Pair of preferred walk-ons for IU football


News on the 2013 recruiting front has been quiet, but Indiana and head coach Kevin Wilson have reportedly added a pair of preferred walk-ons for 2012 in the last month.

Quai Chandler, a 5-foot-11 1/2, 190-pound running back/defensive back from Lake Forest (Ill.) Academy, picked the Hoosiers in late April, according to the Beloit (Wisc.) Daily News — Chandler’s hometown. Chandler rushed for over 1,100 yards and was Special Mention All-State as a defensive back.

The most unique note about Chandler is that his ties to Indiana include former Colts head coach Jim Caldwell, who is his father’s first cousin.

The latest walk-on commit according to the Richmond Palladium-Item is Chandler Miller, a 6-foot-4, 192-pound wide receiver from Richmond. Miller tore his ACL in the fifth game of the season this past fall. He still finished with 2,019 career receiving yards, the most in school history by nearly 500 yards.

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  • Versacourt #1


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 1:14 PM EST

    this is a great blog, keep me posted!

  • Podunker #2


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 3:36 PM EST

    Depth, especially at D-back. More good news.

    I like stories about walk-ons. I perceive them to be hungry and highly motivated to make the team and earn a scholarship. There are countless number of stories about undervalued guys that walk on to football teams, eventually earning a scholarship, and making great contributions to a team’s success.

    And these two guys seem to have the size necessary for Big Ten football.

  • TsaoTsuG #3


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 4:19 PM EST

    Somehow I missed Andy Graham’s great article on the Hoosiers football and Coach Kevin Wilson of May 20. Really worthwhile reading it (I finally did so today).

    And, two or three great, great posts by Beat Purdue who exposed some pretenders who claim to be Hoosier fans.

    Andy Graham had written a great, very informative article with realistic analysis (we’re used to that from Andy Graham). Most important was a tremendous post by Beat Purdue. Beat Purdue’s response to ‘Hoosier Local’ (who I strongly suspect is a remake of and often mentioned former poster known for his exaggerated ‘insider’ claims and vicious personal attacks on Hoosier coaches just as described) is great, valid and very, very needed. This may be the best football post in quite a long time.

    We will be in a fight to attempt to gain respectability, perhaps and ironically mainly against some who claim to be Hoosier fans but who deep inside show their disdain for Hoosier football success out of their fear that they will be exposed for what they are: wannabes and, deep inside disloyal fans.

    I suspect with coaches like Wilson, an outstanding staff of assistants and fans like Beat Purdue, Podenker, Chet and others who are determined to see the Hoosiers rise, we will get there. Go Hoosiers!

  • iufan23 #4


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 5:19 PM EST

    I think we will “get there” as well, but it may not be soon and it definitely won’t be easy. IU is starting, once again, from the back of a very talented pack and while we are improving in every aspect of the program, so are our B10 opponents. In reading the specifics on our 2012 roster, I believe we now have the talent to hang with our non-conference opponents and with some of the B10 teams including, I think, Purdue. I would like to see 3-4 wins this year—tough, not impossible!

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #5


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 5:32 PM EST

    Podenker…or Podunker?

    Top 5 anagrams for Podunker:

    5. Ope Drunk
    4. Nude Pork
    3. Punk Doer
    2. Drop Nuke
    1. Duke Porn

  • Podunker #6


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 5:39 PM EST

    Rebuilding IU football is a process, and it will be a longer-than-normal rebuilding process because of our recent past and because of our lack of tradition in football. We are beginning to get the players necessary to compete in the Big Ten, but they will need time to get bigger, stronger, and integrated into Wilson’s system. It’s going to take years. We have to be patient and supportive through these tough times and encourage our fellow Hoosier fans to recognize signs of advancement (recruiting, coaching stability, etc).

    But I think most fair-minded fans can appreciate improvement, in both the quality of IU’s competitive effort in those games where nobody expects IU to win. There are no moral victories, but it should not be hard for IU fans to recognize progress, regardless of it’s final record.

    I think IU can win four games in 2012. But more importantly, I think we can play some of the Big Boys a lot tougher thane we have in the last three years. If we do that, I for one will be encouraged.

  • Podunker #7


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 5:50 PM EST

    Harvard, congratulations on demonstrating your mastery of anagrams. I have not seen such a display since our fourth grade class at Child’s Elementary School did that 45 years ago. That’s special.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #8


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 6:03 PM EST

    With a preseason #1 ranked basketball team, four measly wins in football will be a lot easier to swallow. Poor Mr. Lynch was judged during some of the darkest hours our basketball program has seen for many years. When both sports had nearly no light glowing at the end of a very dark long tunnel, the gavels came down impatiently hard on men that tried just as hard as the current king at the thrown. Now patience again be his rule. Funny how the guy with the thickest resume will now get the longest rope.

    One sport, IU hoops, has now been brought through the tunnel of despair and football will be judged less harshly because Indiana fans have the winter months to once again look forward to. Much like the past, pigskin will serve its rightful place for some sitting in the sun a brisk fall day, sipping hot chocolate, and warming up the vocal chords for basketball season. Once again we can even the score with OSU, Illinois, Michigan, MSU, Penn State, and Northwestern when the b-ball echoes back to our storied tradition of dominance on maple.

    Thanks to Tom Crean landing Cody Zeller, football becomes the tolerable opening act a great show.

    Starting to sound like JPat is Scoop’s ‘Phantom’ of the Tsao Opera-tion Football.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #9


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 6:22 PM EST

    Has their ever been a greater Hoosier Scoop love story? One in hiding in solitude his hideous rumor…One singing in front the Scoop crowds beautiful notes a broken longing heart.

    Could Tsao and JPat be nearing the Punt of No Return?

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #10


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 6:23 PM EST

    oops.

    Has there ever…

  • Chet #11


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 8:30 PM EST

    As long as the football team appears to be steadily improving I’ll probably remain patient. There was no doubt in my mind that the team worse getting worse by the week, let alone season, under BL.

  • Podunker #12


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 8:47 PM EST

    Chet; well said. I concur. And I still don’t understand all the heartache over BL’s termination. He got a very nice severance and had another nice job within a year of being terminated by IU. BL was a decent man and he was treated with decency by IU’s administration. I don’t think he’ll will be on welfare any time soon.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #13


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 9:46 PM EST

    That’s not really my point. You can’t disagree that having one very successful major program removes a bit of impatience from the fan base. It brings a more positive vibe to the campus knowing the basketball program will not experience added demoralization following the all-too-familiar football follies.

    Lynch did not have that warm and fuzzy feel buzzing around Bloomington. Wilson, a coach most would agree coming from a background of more prestige, operates under an administration feeling less overall pressure.

    IU Athletics is back on the map and it’s not due to football. A nice long rope of patience for Wilson, but does that hurt or help the football program? Does the sprouting seed and new luster of the Wilson hire begin to fade into the background of a fan’s indifference with IU hoops back at national center stage?
    Will the football losses have the same sting in October with anticipation one of our best basketball teams taking the floor in many, many, years come November?

  • Chet #14


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 10:42 PM EST

    Maybe not. We could have gone large and taken a chance with a coach that we knew would give us W’s.

    UNC hired Butch Davis and they were on the football map in a season and a half.

    Wanna ask a Tar Heel fan if it was worth it?

    I’ll take the hand we’re playing.

  • Chet #15


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 10:49 PM EST

    In a way it’s like Kaintuck and Calapari. They know for a fact that he’ll win and history tells them he will land them in hot water.

    They decided it was worth it.

    Who really wants to be like Kaintuck? They win a few basketball games but the school is a punchline.

    Seriously, if you were building bridges and a guy with an engineering degree from UK comes in how likely is it that you’d hire him.

    But they win basketball games.

    Is it worth it?

  • TsaoTsuG #16


    Monday, June 4, 2012 - 11:14 PM EST

    Depends Harvard, on how you approach it. Some of us are very hopeful but realistically allowing for the fact that this will be team dominated by sophomores who are still learning the difference between winning and losing. We count on Wilson’s experience at Northwestern and Oklahoma and his insistence that we develop the same culture and atmosphere of the top programs.

    I, for one, wont anticipate basketball season in October; I’ll be too preoccupied with supporting Hoosier football.

    Lynch got a very fair chance from Indiana and, as pointed out, was treated very well. With the tragedy of Terry Hoeppner’s death, everyone stood back and hoped Lynch’s takeover would continue what we hoped was TH’s progressively improving program. Few, very few, pressured Lynch until it became evident that IU was not only losing games, it was steadily losing competitiveness.

    I was one of those. I don’t think I seriously thought of change until seeing us go through two seasons of losing games in the fourth quarter, watching a defense that was consistently an embarrassment at best, defensive backs running and knocking each other and falling over as if in a Keystone Cops movie only to hear Coach Lynch explain why he could not afford the luxury of having players practice tackling and blocking; and refusing to make adjustments in personnel. In other words, two years and the prospects of No Way Out. Yet, we hoped on hope.

    When the decision was made it was instinctive, it was time. The danger I think A.D. Glass understood was that if not done, the program was at risk and the investment in new facilities and the maximum use of IU’s share of BTN money would be uselessly followed by complete loss of a fan base. Glass acted and intuitively most knew it was the right decision. The only thing to do was to handle the separation as fairly and elegantly as possible and that was also done.

    I think this reflects what most Hoosier fans think is reasonable, justifiable while retaining hope for as successful a football program as we deserve. It is unfair to describe Lynch’s firing as an evil conspiracy of no-support; or the absence of a warm, fuzzy community feeling around Bill Lynch. All to the contrary. Given what we knew of his coaching history- (at Ball State his teams were a success early in his tenure, with someone else’s players dominating his roster only to collapse into failure leading to his dismissal later. Lynch was a good offensive coach while his defense a cruel testimony to his weakness.

    Most important Lynch’s sinned of misplaced and contradictory loyalty. His refusal to face reality and head off failure by making the changes necessary in his defensive staff condemned him by his own hand. No one mistreated anyone, there was no conspiracy…Lynch got a fair opportunity. It simply became just as much an issue of fairness that a real attempt be made to be properly loyal to Hoosier fans by putting a good, solid, self respecting and competitive football team on the field.

    Glass understood the pressure was on his administration to do this and he acted by finding a coach with a true national reputation willing to accept the challenge. He acted and now we wait to see the results. Nothing unfair about that.

  •   #17


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 1:32 AM EST

    Nice reply Tsao. Only 553 words away from a really good post.

    Season Two: “Win Two” Day is coming!

  • Podunker #18


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 2:36 PM EST

    IU’s recent success in basketball has nothing to do with IU football or the status of the football coach. IU’s previous lack of success in basketball had nothing to do with IU firing BL. I don’t see any connection whatsoever. Yes, fans may get grumpy when IU basketball is losing, but that does not equate to increased pressure on IU’s football coach. I think the historical record will back be up on that. Bobby Knight’s success did not save any of IU’s football coaches their jobs.

    As far as Wilson being selected as IU’s football coach, my guess is that he was, in the opinion of Glass and others in power to decide, the best man available for the job at the time the job became open. And I do not agree that IU could have gone out and hired a Butch Davis-type head coach as UNC did a few years ago. The money was simply not there to pay a coach that kind of cash and the risk would have been huge. Wilson fit, both philosophically and financially, what IU’s administrators wanted and needed. Time will tell if they guessed right, but he has six more years left on his contract and my guess is the buyout is big enough that he’ll get at least four or five more years to demonstrate that Glass picked the right guy.

  • iufan23 #19


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 2:43 PM EST

    I agree with Podunker. I have been very impressed with Mr. Glass and respect the manner in which he appears to think decisions through (his predecessors were not as inclined). My guess is that he made an informed decision hiring CW and that time will validate that decision, though the validation is unlikely for several years.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #20


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 3:14 PM EST

    Outside of a few blips on the radar, IU football has sucked for decades. The only reason fans weren’t more outraged was because of those five banners hanging from Assembly Hall. When IU basketball began to falter in Knight’s latter years, only then did the fans and administrators begin to pay more attention to that horrifically ugly and outdated stadium to the west. Should have started construction on a new basketball stadium instead of feeding money to the dead zombie that walks with no purpose or history…or relevance in a hoops state.

    I don’t disagree that Glass picked a decent man and good coach. That doesn’t change the relaxation of expectations when all is well our renewed basketball Mecca(at least for now). Time will tell if Wilson accomplishes anymore than those that gave their best efforts before him. Fixing IU football is a momentous task within a state producing some of the best basketball talent in the nation.

    Stories of football walk-ons is real inspiring stuff while Michigan and MSU steal some of the best basketball talent from our state.

  • Podunker #21


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 4:25 PM EST

    Harvard, either IU is a basketball “mecca” or it is not. If a person believes that to be true, they probably don’t really care much about IU football. As evidenced by continuous posts to this blog, I’d say there are a significant number of IU fans who feel that way. On the other hand, there are those people, like myself, while ardent IU basketball fans, see no reason why IU can’t be good (i.e., competitive) in football while enjoying a dominant BB program. As I and others have mentioned previously, other colleges and college towns inferior to IU and Bloomington have achieved success in football and basketball. It has been done before, at other lesser colleges, therefore it can be done again, at IU.

    IU had no choice but to invest in the football stadium and training facilities. And where is the outrage amongst Hoosier fans to replace Assembly Hall? I don’t see it or hear it, anywhere! I love that old building and I still find it to be one of loudest most opponent-intimidating places to play in all of college basketball. Assembly Hall is not an embarrassment, like the old Memorial Stadium was. Overall, IU’s BB facilities are still top notch throughout college basketball. It’s obviously not hindering recruiting or preventing good coaches from accepting BB coaching jobs. In other words, Assembly Hall has not been, and is not currently, a problem. But Memorial Stadium was a problem and it had to be upgraded if IU was to have any chance at ever becoming competitive in football again. The investment in Memorial Stadium does not guarantee success in football, but failing to invest Memorial Stadium would have guaranteed continued failure.

    The previous problems affecting IU basketball and football was a lack of vision and leadership. Putting it bluntly, IU athletics suffered from a succession of incompetent fools that occupied top administrative positions for many years. Just look at the turnover in A.D.s before Glass arrived. That turnover suggests that a few IU Presidents and Boards of Trustees were failing in their responsibilities regarding vision and leadership. As I see it, IU’s current President and Glass are a major upgrade and are providing the leadership and vision that has been missing for many, many years. Strong and talented leaders surround themselves with strong and talented subordinates.

    As for the expectations of the Hoosier Nation regarding football, I’d say Hep’s untimely death and IU’s history combined to reduce expectations. Hep’s death was a major blow. And hiring Lynch to replace him beyond that next year was, as I shouted at the time, a big mistake that had long-term consequences. A good A.D. would have done the hard thing and not extended Lynch’s contract, opting instead to hire a football coach with the pedigree necessary to build success in the Big Ten.

  • TsaoTsuG #22


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 5:16 PM EST

    Good post Podunker!

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #23


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 6:02 PM EST

    That’s a great summertime speech. You have valid arguments and they tend to win over the foolish ideas of Harvard.

    I love the underdog status of IU football. I felt bad for Lynch. He seemed pretty genuine though not the typical Mike Ditka style of manliness most want out of their macho football leader. Lynch was the awkward looking spastic guy that couldn’t even throw his gum out his mouth gracefully. How close he came to leading his undersized troops into Michigan and winning one for the dorky guys always getting picked on.

    I think much of the attraction I have had for football(albeit very sporadic attraction) has been the juxtaposition of the two contrasting programs. Maybe there is nothing wrong with being the second favorite. Why must there be forced equality? Maybe after all the chances she’s been given she’ll just never measure up by the terms you want her to. Can’t you love IU football because she’s the loser that will never stop trying? Yes, she had all those warts, but those blemishes her unattractiveness may have brought to her doorstep some of the truest and loyal fans. I truly admire those Hoosier fans that put their butts in the stands and cheer though it’s obvious she’ll never wear the crown as queen at the homecoming dance? I can never understand that parent that painfully strives endlessly to place two uniquely different children on the same pedestal. Love IU football for her wonderful spiri. Though she may never get the attention of a handsome Seth Davis, love her for her brains and unassuming awkward beauty. Why must you make her into Hoosier Basketball? Just because you have given her the best makeover, a new wardrobe, and payed a handsome fellow from a faraway town a lot of money to take her out for a few dates, this now makes her more lovable in your eyes?

    It’s o.k….Make her feel special. I still say you’re deceiving her and trying to make her into her sister. Her inner beauty deserves better than that man you just payed a ton of money to give her a pretend hug.

  •    #24


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 6:16 PM EST

    ^ Tsao getting closer to the essence: only three words away from what would have been an absolutely magnificent post. Tsao, keep working on it, buddy: never, never, never, never give up.

    Meanwhile Podunker wasted a ton of words to tell us he thinks IU is not a basketball “mecca”. Because if he believed IU were a basketball “mecca” he wouldn’t care too much about IU football (his words). But he does. So Podunker is busted.

    Now please be quiet and let me follow IU Football.

  • Podunker #25


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 7:40 PM EST

    As a young boy living in Bloomington, I witnessed first hand a major, but all too short turn-around in IU football during the late 60’s. It was a magical time and when IU went to the Rose Bowl, I’d say it came close to generating the excitement amongst Hoosier fans that IU’s trips to the final four have generated. The difference being that while we expected to win the basketball championships, we were simply hopeful that IU might win the Rose Bowl game. As I recall, IU basketball did not, by IU’s high standards, achieve great success 1967, 1968 or 1969. And yet, IU football was on the rise.

    Since I don’t really understand the meaning of a basketball “mecca,” I’m not going to argue whether IU is or is not one. Can there be more than one “mecca.”

    I believe IU is a great school, located in a great college town. I also believe that IU has a great and proud winning tradition in basketball. I believe IU can continue to be a dominant basketball program, going to the final four and winning more championships, while achieving success in football. If you don’t believe that is possible, please post your arguments explaining why not.

    IU football is two consecutive winning (and bowl bound) football seasons away from having a lot of Hoosier fans jump back on the football bandwagon, filling Memorial Stadium, and claiming that they’ve been huge football fans forever. I just hope I live to see the day.

  • Hoosier Clarion #26


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 7:56 PM EST

    Po, In reply to your last sentence. You and me both!

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #27


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 8:27 PM EST

    It’s good to have faith. What other form can there truly be but blind? It’s summer. We let the warm sunshine and eternal feel the long days revive our hope.

    Maybe it’s the name…Memorial Stadium? When things die are they not given a memorial? When we play basketball in Indiana we assemble…Thus the name Assembly Hall. Any questions?

    Indiana does seem to breed some damn good quarterbacks..If we could only find one that wants to put on a Hoosier uniform. ..A Sexy Rexy…A Saint that played for Purdain’t…a pout-faced Bear from Santa Claus that plays on a field of Soldiers…A Golden Dome Gunner gone Irish.

    Land a QB and change the name of the cemetery we play football..And let me hear your ‘everything is rosy’ speech during mid-season when we’re 0-5.

  • Chet #28


    Tuesday, June 5, 2012 - 9:24 PM EST

    Po, regarding IU not having the money to make a big splash on a coach, I’m not sure that’s true. The will, maybe. The BTN is a license to print money. ACC money just doesn’t compare to Big Ten money, just as basketball money pales in comparison to football money.

  • Podunker #29


    Wednesday, June 6, 2012 - 2:37 PM EST

    A. Everything is not “rosy” and will never be rosy. The question is, can it get better. The answer is, it can. Success is a journey, not a destination.

    B. Does anyone actually believe the IU football stadium’s name affects the quality of play, the attendance at games, or the fan interest in IU football? Now that’s really original. Ridiculous, but original!

    C. No way IU Athletics had (at the time) or has, either the budget or the political will (i.e., confidence) to pay a football coach $3 million or more per year. And remember, it’s not just the compensation of the head coach, but the compensation for his staff. You can argue that it was technically possible for IU to pay that kind of money, but in reality, it was not. Glass is not a fool. And only a fool would wager that kind of money on a head football coach’s salary at IU before IU begins to have success. If IU starts to win, and football revenues increase, IU will likely pay what it must to keep the right coach. But Glass and the IU administrators were not going to risk that kind of cash, at this point in time and with all the other athletic priorities (baseball facilities), on a head football coach. In the real world, it was not possible.

  • Bowl Bound #30


    Wednesday, June 6, 2012 - 7:39 PM EST

    IU Football is in good hands.

    Kevin Wilson.

    Head Coach Record: 1-21

    Head Coach Experience:

    “In 1989 he became the head coach and athletic director of Fred T. Foard High School, near his hometown and alma mater Maiden, North Carolina, where the Tigers went 0–10.”

    Then he came to Indiana.

    Here he is already changing the culture.

    Big ad on TV: “Win Today!” Boom!, we went 3-55 at MSU.

    More ads on TV: “Play Smart. Play Hard. Win Today!”

    Boom!, we went 7-59 at Wisconsin.

    I think people are afraid to play Indiana now. They know Kevin Wilson may throw pancakes at them. I think people are intimidated when they hear the name of the head coach: Kevin Wilson. None other than the former head coach of Fred T. Foard High School. Can you say: “Win Two” Day? No? Come on, you just have to keep believing…

  • TsaoTsuG #31


    Wednesday, June 6, 2012 - 8:32 PM EST

    Bowl Bound…the pancakes crack gave you away. Same wannabe. Not very smart, are you?

  • TsaoTsuG #32


    Wednesday, June 6, 2012 - 8:59 PM EST

    Hoosier Clarion, Podunker…I’d guess I’m about 10 years older than either of you and, yes, repeating how we felt in 1967 is in the top five on my bucket list.

    Not sure to what extent budget limits us on getting ‘THE’ coach (if my intuition doesn’t fail me we may have him in KW). Indiana should not be looking for an established, reputation ‘name’. Those that would come are those who are probably on their way back. I would prefer a middle age coach, even a younger one with a reputation as a visionary who has valid and successful experience as a top assistant, known for organization and tactical ideas, discipline and who is equally able to attract younger but not new coaches who excel as ‘teachers’ to do the polishing.

    In terms of talent, a former IU assistant (1967)once explained to me that IU would have to recruit players who are not ‘finished’ product like those Ohio State or Michigan will get; but, who have a high ceiling to achieve, want the challenge and want to be ‘the class that did it’ and are looking to be coached to the 4-star level over their first two years and polished as juniors and seniors. That’s exactly what happened in 1967 and with Mallory’s teams. It is totally within the realm of Indiana’s present players (rising sophomores and incoming freshmen/transfers).

    That would be a plan that can endure. And, most important, once achieved the coach is much more likely to want to stay with ‘his creation’ since Indiana’s level as a major institution is established and permanent. And, as Podunker pointed out, if you are looking for the ‘campus and university town’ experience, you can not outdo Indiana (even Dobie Gillis would commit).

    All I want is to be Top Ten between 2014 and 2037. The you can bury me in a red pine box with the letters I and U.

  • TsaoTsuG #33


    Wednesday, June 6, 2012 - 9:02 PM EST

    The last line should have read “…attract younger, but not new,coaches who excel…”

  • Chet #34


    Wednesday, June 6, 2012 - 9:20 PM EST

    I agree about the ‘big name’ coach. The fact of the matter is, any ‘big name’ coach that might be available would have to have some sort of flaw you could drive a truck through (i.e. Butch Davis at UNC).

    Only time will tell but something along the line of a successful OC or DC at a top flight program might be the way to go.

    Oh, wait…

  • davis #35


    Wednesday, June 6, 2012 - 9:28 PM EST

    Isn’t Mecca (Bloomington or elsewhere) spelled with a capital “M”? And I agree with Harvard and others about the relationship of bball to football on campus (Harvard’s take on the opposite implications of the different names of the stadia was downright insightful, maybe even poetic), but I differ in that if a struggling bball program results in more attention to football, so be it. Call me a disloyal son of IU, but I’m a football fan, so just don’t call me late for kickoff!

    Actually, there’s no good reason we can’t have good hoops and pigskin programs (see Ohio St.), but as many have noted, it will take a huge cultural shift- such as establishing a regular series with Notre Dame to help give the program some identity instead of trying to back into a meaningless bowl game by beating up on Whatsamatta U. and Obscure State Tech in pre-conf. games. At least we’ve taken a step in the right direction by adding Missouri in a couple of years.

  • Chet #36


    Wednesday, June 6, 2012 - 9:58 PM EST

    I just think the whole ‘we’re a basketball school not a football school’ is very 1952.

    Sure it takes a paradigm shift, like Virginia Tech, Oregon, TCU, Boise State, et al, have pulled of over the years.

    Seriously, Virginia Tech (whose games I attend every year) wasn’t even on the map 15 years ago. Now they are Alabama, OSU, Florida, or Miami.

  • Waitingforwins #37


    Friday, June 8, 2012 - 3:04 PM EST

    Chet, I would agree with you about the outdatedness (is that even a word?) of the “we’re a basketball school not a football school”, but then you look at this thread and see how quickly the topic went from season expectation to Crean and the basketball program.

    As the old adage goes, “Perception is reality.” The perception is that IU is a basketball school, and a majority of our fan base do nothing to dispel that notion, and the reality is the rest of the world views us as a basketball first and only school.

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[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_williams1.jpg]2880Troy Williams
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Troy Williams (5)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_burton1.jpg]2850Ryan Burton
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Ryan Burton (10)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_yogi1.jpg]2590Yogi Ferrell
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Yogi Ferrell (11)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_perea1.jpg]2810Hanner Mosquera-Perea
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Hanner Mosquera-Perea (12)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_robinson1.jpg]2340Stanford Robinson
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Stanford Robinson (22)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_ritchie1.jpg]2320Nate Ritchie
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Nate Ritchie (23)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_holt1.jpg]2760Emmitt Holt
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Emmitt Holt (25)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_hartman1.jpg]2930Collin Hartman
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Collin Hartman (30)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_priller1.jpg]3200Tim Priller
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Tim Priller (35)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/mens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_april1.jpg]3250Jeremiah April
Chris Howell | Herald-Times Indiana University Men's Basketball head shots in Bloomington, Ind., Tuesday, Sept. 9, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers center Jeremiah April (44)

Women's Basketball Player Pages

[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_walter1.jpg]3710Jess Walter
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Jess Walter (2)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_buss1.jpg]8830Tyra Buss
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Tyra Buss (3)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_brooks1.jpg]4940Larryn Brooks
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Larryn Brooks (5)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_agler1.jpg]4100Taylor Agler
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Taylor Agler (10)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_bell2.jpg]3190Nicole Bell
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Nicole Bell (12)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_stratman1.jpg]3090Liz Stratman
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_hulls1.jpg]3190Kaila Hulls
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard/forward Kaila Hulls (15)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_mcbride1.jpg]2690Karlee McBride
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Karlee McBride (21)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_gassion1.jpg]2550Alexis Gassion
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Alexis Gassion (23)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_muensterman1.jpg]2720Maura Meunsterman
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Maura Muensterman (31)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_mize1.jpg]2680Andrea Mize
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers guard Andrea Mize (32)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_cahill1.jpg]2820Amanda Cahill
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Amanda Cahill (33)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_jakubicek1.jpg]2940Claire Jakubicek
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Claire Jakubicek (34)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_leikem1.jpg]2810Lyndsay Leikem
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers forward Lyndsay Leikem (40)
[img src=http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/flagallery/womens-basketball-player-pages/thumbs/thumbs_anderson1.jpg]2600Jenn Anderson
Chris Howell | Herald-TimesIndiana University women's basketball portraits at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind., Thursday, October 23, 2014.Indiana Hoosiers center Jenn Anderson (43)
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