Roth still waiting four days before semester

Before Matt Roth even addressed his own status, he stopped to express his empathy for Ron Patterson.

“I saw the news, which is too bad,” Roth said of Patterson’s academics-based departure from Indiana. “You don’t want to see the academics get in the way of a talented player like that. But it sounds like he’s got a good family around him, and I wish him the best. Academics is really important, and I’m sure he’s putting a lot of pressure on himself to get better there.”

But after that, Roth said that, no, he still hasn’t heard anything definitive about his status with Indiana. The combination of Patterson’s departure and the impending beginning of the fall semester hasn’t brought any more information with it.

The 6-foot-3, 185-pound sharpshooting guard still has a fifth year of eligibility remaining thanks to a broken foot that cost him all but two games of his sophomore season. Patterson’s departure made it appear slightly more likely that he might actually use it, but the Hoosiers are at the NCAA limit of 13 scholarships without him in the fold and Monday’s beginning of the fall semester would appear to represent the clock running out on his return.

Still, Roth said he’s heard nothing definitive one way or the other from Indiana.

“I haven’t been contacted since (the news of Patterson’s departure) and I haven’t been informed of anything involving my status,” Roth said.

Roth was asked if he’d given up hope of a return.

“I’ve not come to that conclusion yet,” he said. “It’s not something I want to have happen until it happens. I know the deadline is coming up. I’m hoping to hear something one way or the other. There’s not going to be any hard feelings one way or the other. I kept my options open and did what’s best for me, but I haven’t found what’s best for me yet. I haven’t found a job that’s the right fit for me.”

Through the first half of the summer, Roth said he was very much keeping his options open and passing up on potential opportunities to play his fifth year at another school — which he can do without penalty — as well as potential employment opportunities. Recently, he has spent more time looking for a job, but hasn’t found one yet.

Roth said he has been in contact with Indiana coach Tom Crean over the summer through text messaging and that he also worked at one of Crean’s summer camps, but that the two have not discussed his status in some time.

“He told me earlier in the summer to keep my options open,” Roth said. “I told him I wasn’t going to put a blindfold on and not look at jobs, not prepare. We both agreed do what’s best for me. Since then it’s just been checking in and seeing how thing are going. There’s been nothing very directly related to the situation. Everybody wants to figure out the final conclusion. We’ve talked back and forth. Hopefully we’re either going to get together or have a final phone call. It’s a business and I’m aware of everything involved.”

If by some chance Roth was asked to return at this point — which appears highly unlikely — it would almost assuredly be as a walk-on. There’s still a chance the Hoosiers could lose a scholarship player before the season starts if guard Maurice Creek doesn’t make a full recovery, but if he doesn’t become a medical non-counter by Monday, he will count against Indiana’s limit for the rest of the school year whether he plays or not.

Roth said he wasn’t sure what he would do if presented with that option.He already has a bachelor’s degree and a master’s degree, so he would have to enroll for either another master’s or a doctorate to continue his education. Exactly how much that would cost is difficult to calculate, but the Illinois native’s out-of-state status would presumably make it more expensive.

“It would be tough to do,” Roth said. “It’s tough financially, I’m aware of the value of money and the difficulties that would come with taking out a loan and everything. I’m not sure how the process would work being injured on scholarship and playing not on scholarship. I’d need help from some people in compliance to see if that’s even possible. That would be a long process, and it’s not something that I’ve thought about.”


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  • Debbie says:

    Sorry Matt your days at IU are over. Your good coach and buddy Crean has his team set and unfortunately it doesn’t include you. Thanks for all you did at IU and best to you in your future endeavors.

  • Aruss says:

    Get on with your life. You’re starting to border on being annoying.

  • In his defense, Aruss, I called him to find out what was up. It’s not like he staged a press conference.

  • Geoff says:

    Maybe he meant Debbie… Although I know you can’t speculate on that Dustin.

  • I hadn’t thought about that. I guess it could be either.

  • coachv says:

    apuss and debbie can go suck it. matt roth is a class act.

  • Wisconsin owns Indiana says:

    Typical tom crean..

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    I knew it! This was my suspicion all along…Here is your walk-on that took Matt Roth’s only chance to be on the roster(and he won’t even play this year due to transfer rules). You just weren’t Christian enough, Matt.

    Check out Jonny’s Twitter page…It’s even heavier in biblical references than Tom Crean’s.

    Jonny Marlin ‏@JonnyMarlin

    Nothing ahead of you is bigger or stronger than the power of God behind you.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    You don’t call Matt Roth, but you find a walk-on spot for transfer from IPFW…? Wow…

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Is it just me…?

  • Wang Wang says:


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  • Wai He So Tan? says:

    ^ No.         

  • Chet says:

    It never bothered me as a kid but that hymn really gives me the creeps now.

  • Rick says:

    Matt Roth was exciting to watch, those games where you just needed a pump, well he was there. I never saw him force a shot and he always played team ball. He was great for IU and I wish him the best.

  • Kelvin Sampson says:

    I read this as “Maurice Creek’s recovery is still up in the air.” If Mo was clearly going to play this year, Crean would have let Roth go. If Mo was clearly out for the year, Crean would have called Roth in.

    I am a bit surprised that Roth hasn’t used the graduate transfer exception to go to a smaller school and continue to get a free education. Roth could really help a MAC or Horizon League school.

  • guest says:

    Um, yeah, if Aruss’ comment was directed at Roth, that’s way out of line. Matt Roth has done more for IU in his five years than 99% do in 50 years and he’s handled this situation with complete class.

    And, to be honest, I’m not sure I can say the same about the way IU and Coach Crean have handled this situation. That’s not quite correct. I can absolutely say that IU and Crean have not handled this situation with complete class or integrity.

  • Chet says:

    Based upon what you know.

    I keep reading all these posts by people who are coming to conclusions as if they know all the details. Then the go on to determine the character of the people involved based upon…well…pretty much nothing.

    When this all settles out and everything turns out to be above board not a soul will post an apology for the character assassinations.

    They never do.

  • Jonny Marlin isn’t on scholarship and his presence doesn’t have anything to do with the decision on Roth. (And to quell the conspiracy perhaps a little, Roth is pretty Christian)

  • Abe Froman says:

    “I keep reading all these posts by people who are coming to conclusions as if they know all the details. Then the go on to determine the character of the people involved based upon…well…pretty much nothing.”

    You have to be kidding… Tom Crean has been doing this type of thing an basically a yearly basis for the last decade+. You are either retarded or a complete homer if you can’t draw a conclusion from that much information.

  • Hoosier Clarion says:

    …and after Mo’s injuries along with how the GMM, Lyles and Patterson commitments have worked out it is a damn good thing Coach Crean goes about his business covering all the bases in the manner he does…GO Coach…

  • Coach Norman Dale says:

    A lot of you remind me of the local residents of Hickory…the ones that tried to tell me how to run my practices, and what kind of defense I needed to employ, etc….even though they were barbers, and policemen, and farmers….all noble lines of work to be sure, but it’s got nothing to do with running a basketball program.

    I guess it’s good for entertainment value, but until anyone here actually runs a storied D1 program, it will be difficult to see all of the sniping as anything more than that.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Isn’t there a maximum number of players that can be on a roster? Jonny Marlin’s addition puts the Hoosiers at 17 total.

    Who would strengthen our team more? Who would you rather have on the team as a walk-on? The 2nd best 3-point shooter in the nation or a transfer walk-on, a poor man’s Jordy Hulls, that the NCAA prohibits from playing this year?

    Come on, Dustin. You know why Jonny Marlin is on the roster. No Ron Patterson, but we can make room for Jonny Marlin. What else could Crean do? Cut a A-Hope kid? Destroy the chance to convert kids from Africa into Christians? Or do we cut a kid we watched blow out his knees? Cutting Creek would have looked like kicking Tiny Tim out of a Dickens’ Christmas Carol goose dinner. So where is the point of least resistance to invent a reason to get your ass out of the scholarship bind?…Easy. Force out a Broad Ripple kid on the eve of his college classes beginning(We found out late in the game that he’s nothing more than a Sampson-type kid; a baller, but, unfortunately, a product of a crappy Indy public high school that is simply not worth the gamble)…Hold onto your holier-than-thou Hoosier butt cheeks. Same time we’re putting Patterson on the bus(pun intended), Jonny is pulling up to campus in his chariot and whisked quickly to the Hall to pose for his official roster photo. Here’ssssssss JONNY….Goodbyyyyyyyyyyyyye, RONNY.

  • I’m just saying Matt Roth Or Johnny Marlin was not an either-or proposition. Neither was Marlin or Patterson. Because Marlin isn’t on scholarship. If roster size was the issue (it isn’t, scholarships are the issue) they could move off somebody like Raphael Smith or Taylor Wayer. You can disagree with Crean on the treatment of Roth and Patterson all you want, but the fact is Jonny Marlin has nothing to do with this issue whatsoever because — one more time- Jonny Marlin isn’t on scholarship.

  • Aruss says:

    *My comment was directed to Debbie.

    Everyone should know I’m one of the most respectful commentors on this blog.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    I don’t think it’s spelled with the ‘h.’ You don’t know that it wasn’t and either-or proposition. Maybe Crean had a set number in his mind for the roster(walk-ons + scholarships)and he had already decided Marlin over Roth for the final walk-on spot. If he puts Roth on scholarship to let him finish his eligibility, how does it look to cut Creek out of the picture while putting a kid like Marlin on the bench? Do you honestly believe Creek will recover to a level needed to play at the highest level the college game? It’s all about putting as many Christians on the bench he can while still protecting his holier-than-thou hypocrite ass. There is a certain perception from the fans that Crean is highly aware when he’s making these decisions. No Patterson and no Creek with Roth(scholarship) and Marlin sitting at the end of the bench? Only room for one slow white choir boy even slower than “the worst defender in all of college basketball.” These decisions are all intertwined and Crean is as piously calculating as they get.

    And isn’t there still a certain expense to the university to put a walk-on on the team? Is there not a normal cutoff point? I’m just asking..What’s the norm for a total number on a Big 10 team?

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