Few changes in depth chart

28 comments by   |   Monday, September 3, 2012 - 4:22 pm EDT

Not that anyone’s surprised, but there are few changes in IU’s released depth chart this week.

As usual, the depth chart for Monday’s release appears to be what the depth chart actually was for Saturday’s game, and it could change entirely by the game against Massachusetts. The only changes from last week to this week are the ones that were manifest in IU’s win over Indiana State. Sophomore D’Angelo Roberts is listed as the first-string tailback (he started Saturday) and freshman Dan Feeney is listed as the starting right guard. Wide receiver Duwyce Wilson was listed as a backup last week, but started and is listed as a starter this week.

All three players who are coming off one-game suspensions — wide receiver Kofi Hughes, cornerback Lawrence Barnett and linebacker Forisse Hardin — are listed as backups this week. The rest of the depth chart follows.

OFFENSE
LT
78 Jason Spriggs, 6-7, 268, Fr./Fr.
57 Pete Bachman, 6-5, 285, Jr./So.
LG
73 Bernard Taylor, 6-2, 292, So./So. -or-
64 Collin Rahrig, 6-2, 278, Jr./So.
C
60 Will Matte, 6-2, 292, Sr./5th
64 Collin Rahrig, 6-2, 278, Jr./So.
RG
67 Dan Feeney, 6-4, 293, Fr./Fr. -or-
76 Cody Evers, 6-4, 304, Jr./So.
RT
59 Peyton Eckert, 6-6, 293, So./So.
77 Dimitric Camiel, 6-7, 295, Fr./Fr.
WR
1 Shane Wynn, 5-7, 157, So./So.
84 Jamonne Chester, 6-2, 210, Sr./Jr.
WR
81 Duwyce Wilson, 6-3, 195, Sr./Jr.
13 Kofi Hughes, 6-2, 210, Jr./Jr.
WR
3 Cody Latimer, 6-3, 208, So./So.
14 Nick Stoner, 6-1, 173, So./So.
QB
5 Tre Roberson, 6-0, 190, So./So.
2 Cameron Coffman, 6-2, 191, So./So.
RB
20 D’Angelo Roberts, 5-10, 195, So./So.
6 Tevin Coleman, 6-1, 200, Fr./Fr.
12 Stephen Houston, 6-0, 218, Sr./Jr.
TE
83 Ted Bolser, 6-6, 250, Sr./Jr.
85 Charles Love III, 6-3, 240, Sr./5th
DEFENSE
LE
25 Ryan Phillis, 6-3, 261, Jr./So.
95 Bobby Richardson, 6-3, 279, So./So.
DT
97 Larry Black, Jr., 6-2, 294, Sr./5th
99 Adarius Rayner, 6-2, 292, So./Fr.
DT
98 Adam Replogle, 6-3, 294, Sr./Sr.
75 Nicholas Sliger, 6-3, 290, Sr./5th
RE
96 John Laihinen, 6-4, 250, Jr./So.
33 Zack Shaw, 6-3, 245, So./Fr.
SLB
34 Jacarri Alexander, 6-1, 232, Sr./Jr.
49 Griffen Dahlstrom, 6-3, 226, Sr./Jr.
MLB
42 David Cooper, 6-1, 225, Jr./So.
55 Jake Michalek, 6-2, 242, Jr./So.
WLB
47 Chase Hoobler, 6-2, 242, Jr./So.
31 Jordan Wallace, 6-0, 229, Fr./Fr. -or-
4 Forisse “Flo” Hardin, 6-1, 208, So./So.
LCB
22 Kenny Mullen, 5-10, 180, So./So.
9 Greg Heban, 6-1, 191, Sr./Jr.
S
37 Mark Murphy, 6-2, 206, So./So.
19 Ryan Thompson, 5-10, 195, Jr./Jr.
S8
Drew Hardin, 6-0, 208, Jr./So.
27 Alexander Webb, 6-0, 200, Sr./5th
RCB
7 Brian Williams, 6-0, 185, Jr./So.
23 Lawrence Barnett, 5-10, 187, Sr./Jr.
SPECIAL TEAMS
K
16 Mitch Ewald, 5-10, 173, Sr./Jr.
99 Nick Freeland, 6-0, 201, Sr./5th
P
35 Mitchell Voss, 5-11, 177, Sr./Jr.
36 Erich Toth, 6-3, 190, So./Fr.
LS
91 Matt Dooley, 6-4, 257, So./So.
82 Sean Barrett, 6-6, 200, Fr./Fr.
H
35 Mitchell Voss, 5-11, 177, Sr./Jr.
2 Cameron Coffman, 6-2, 191, So./So.
KR
1 Shane Wynn, 5-7, 157, So./So.
10 Ricky Jones, 5-10, 182, Fr./Fr.
PR
14 Nick Stoner, 6-1, 173, So./So.
1 Shane Wynn, 5-7, 157, So./So.

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28 comments:
#1 Monday, September 3, 2012 - 4:38 PM EDT

Stephen Houston should be starting. I know CKW is trying to make a statement about practice habits by not starting him but this is getting ridiculous.

 
#2
Chet
Monday, September 3, 2012 - 5:24 PM EDT

Does he look that much better in practice? I’m not able to see them but it sounds like you can give us some insights as to what’s going on during the week.

 
#3
Podunker
Monday, September 3, 2012 - 6:32 PM EDT

Aruss, do you think Wilson is trying to make a statement or that he is simply staying true to his word? I mean, since he arrived in Bloomington, Wilson has said that whoever practices the best (works hardest) will be the starter, etc. If Roberts is practicing better than Houston, or working harder during practices, and Wilson were to start Houston, then Wilson might have an entirely different and bigger problem. Wilson must walk the talk so that his players can trust his word, knowing that he will do what he says he will do. Also knowing that if they out work their team mate in practice, they will be rewarded with more playing time.

I don’t think the talent differential between Houston, Robertson and Coleman is such that Wilson can afford to make Houston an exception to his rule. So, if Houston wants more carries, he just needs to work harder in practice.

I’ve been part of a team where the coach says the right things, but then does something completely different. It does not take long for the players’ moral to nosedive and for the distrust to begin setting in. And once that trip down the slippery slope begins, it’s very difficult to stop the slide.

 
#4
Podunker
Monday, September 3, 2012 - 6:36 PM EDT

One more point on the running backs. Houston is going to be needed more when IU starts playing Big Ten teams. The 20 – 23 pound difference between Houston and the other two backs will become more important against bigger defenses. Against ISU and UMass, with relatively small defenses, Wilson can afford to play the smaller backs. When he goes against Northwestern, Houston’s extra size could make a significant difference.

 
#5
vgBMG
Monday, September 3, 2012 - 6:47 PM EDT

In Saturday’s game, Roberts and Coleman were quicker and hit the line harder.

Houston appeared to be slower than I remember from last season. Maybe that’s because Roberts and Coleman are so quick. His 15 yard TD run resulted from excellent line and down field blocking. It did not look like he was ever touched by the defense.

Coleman appears to be real deal.

Also noteworthy: The defense had 2 interceptions and 1 fumble recovery. The offense had no turnovers.

 
#6
vgBMG
Monday, September 3, 2012 - 6:51 PM EDT

#5–OOPS–just 1 interception.

 
#7 Monday, September 3, 2012 - 8:36 PM EDT

2 points about Houston – 1) he was our best player the 2nd half of last year; a true B1G running back. 2) in the words of Allen Iverson, “we’re talking about practice”.

I know CWK wants to portray an old school, dictator type of coach but he needs to understand today’s player better.

 
#8
Podunker
Monday, September 3, 2012 - 9:39 PM EDT

Wilson needs to understand today’s player better? What does that mean? He’s been coaching college football players continuously for many, many years. What does he not understand about today’s player? How is not starting Houston an indication that he does not understand today’s player.

Please explain, cause I must be missing something.

 
#9
Hoosier Clarion
Monday, September 3, 2012 - 11:22 PM EDT

I think Coach Wilson has the RB depth chart just right. If Houston wants to be the starter he has been told the formula for that achievement. If he doesn’t he might find himself 5th on the depth chart after Roundtree and Perez get back.
I’ve often wondered just how good Iverson could have been if he had just worked harder. He might even have lasted a couple of years longer in the big boys league. Still with his attitude I consider him a punk.

 
#10 Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 3:55 AM EDT

I think CKW needs to be more of a players coach. True, he’s been coaching players for several years but he never had the final say or created the culture as the head coach.

Les Miles and Lane Kiffin would be examples of players coaches.

 
#11
YouWillNeverKnow
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 8:10 AM EDT

Aruss-Did you just ask our head coach to be more like Lane Kiffin? Youre kidding right? I’m that is such an idiotic statement you have to be kidding, right? And you didn’t even watch the game Saturday or you would have seen how slow Houston looked compared to the other two backs. And outside of the touchdown he barely got acrossed the line of scrimmage. Lane Kiffin, youre kidding, right?

 
#12
Hoosier Clarion
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 8:10 AM EDT

Aruss did you even watch the game? With every good play Coach Wilson was glad handing, fist bumping, patting, shoulder slapping and high 5ing players as they came off the field. With poor performance he was in close and personally coaching players as required. That is a what “players coach” does.

 
#13
Mike P
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 8:17 AM EDT

Aruss, you have learned zilch over the years. Yes Houston was the best back LAST YEAR when most everyone else was hurt. Watching them run on Saturday, I can tell you he wasn’t the best IU back on the field. Actually none of the three seemed to stand out above the others overall in the game.

Your qoute from Iverson is pure ignorance. Yes, we are talking about practice, but we are not talking about professional calibar athletes nor are we talking about a position that has a single player who would be drafted if declared.

As for being a players coach like Miles or Kiffin, this isn’t LSU or USC. Houston wouldn’t see the practice team there. He has to take D2 and MAC level players and make them competitve in the B1G, not easy to do, and won’t be done by kissing their arse either. That said, I don’t want Wilson buying hookers for our recruits/players and I sure as hell would hope Wilson wouldn’t keep kissing a kids behind when he is getting made a fool of in the BCS Championship game like Miles did last year.

 
#14
Chet
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 9:14 AM EDT

Ah yes, Allen Iverson and his countless championships. Has any player ever done less with more? He’s lost at every level. Great example to use.

…and Lane Kiffin, the Tony Romo of coaching. Every year all the talking heads tell us what a great coach he is. For such a great coach I can’t help but wonder why he’s never won anything. He got handed the keys to the Ferrari this time, though. If he can’t go the distance THIS time maybe he’s not really that good. What’s next for Lane? The WNBA?

Iverson and Kiffin. They both have/had such great potential*.

*translation – they’re not worth a damn.

Here’s the deal. Ask 100 football coaches if they are gonna play a player who dogs it in practice but did well last year. You’ll get 100 ‘no’s.

Oh, Les Miles and LSU? Really? The ‘UK of college football’. You really want to be a part of a clown car of slime like that? I don’t want to win that badly.

 
#15
Podunker
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 1:21 PM EDT

Aruss, I don’t mean to pile on here, but there does not appear to be any basis for your claim that Wilson is not a player’s coach. And while you used a bad example when you sited Kiffin, did you see when Kiffin pulled players from the Hawaii game when they made a mistake? An elite running back fumbles, he’s immediately taken out of the game and gets to watch from the sidelines for quite a while. An All-American (candidate) defensive back commits a stupid unsportsmen-like conduct penalty against a grossly inferior team and he’s yanked from the game.

Have you read the recent news reports that investigators have discovered more cases of egregious cheating by USC boosters and players? The NCAA is trying to determine if these serious violations represent a second offense committed within the five year probation period or if they occurred during the same time period as the last episode of pay for play. If these violations do represent a second offense in that window of time, USC football could receive the death penalty. It probably won’t happen because USC is loaded with cash and enormous political influence, and will use both to buy their way out of trouble. I mention it because Kiffin is not the reason so many elite players play for USC. He is simply the latest beneficiary of a historically corrupt program.

 
#16 Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 2:19 PM EDT

Thanks for not piling on, guys. (insert sarcasm)

I think Ryan K was the first to make the comparison of CKW to Bud Kilmer last year. I noticed the fist bumps to players as well and I think he’s trying to become more of a players coach because he doesn’t want to lose the team like he did last year. We’ll know more after he Northwestern game if we can get the 6 wins this team is capable of.

 
#17
iufan23
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 2:47 PM EDT

Here’s the deal guys…whether or not KW is a player’s coach is a little like the dialog a couple of weeks ago around scheduling so called “patsies”—pretty irrelevant at our stage of development. What we have is a literal ground up rebuild…the objectives this year are clearly 3-4 wins, competitive improvement in all aspects of the game and no one on police blotters or flunking out. If KW can achieve this, I think we’ll all forgive whatever “gaffes” he may have or might make with respect to coaching style.

 
#18
Podunker
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 3:14 PM EDT

I think it’s fair to say that Wilson, like every new, first-year head coach learned a lot from that first year’s experience. In fact, Wilson has admitted that. I’m sure he has evolved and is doing some things differently this year. Maybe he is more comfortable demonstrating enthusiasm and celebrating good plays this year.

There’s an old saying in management that goes something like this, “it’s better to start off being tough and become nice than it is to start off nice and become tough.” As a really good manager of mine once told me (man-years ago) and my associates , “I’ll be tough until each of you prove yourself. It is not important to me that I am popular with any of you.” He was one of the best bosses I have ever worked for. Tough, demanding as hell, but fair. And when we exceeded his expectations, he made sure our performance was highly praised and that we got the credit. He did not pull his punches and did not give false praise. His subordinates either flourished or they left the company.

 
#19
Hoosier Clarion
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 3:26 PM EDT

Lose the team, how naive. He weeded out who couldn’t cut it and the ones he didn’t want but the ones who remain consider him a players coach. Also strongly supported by comments from Landry Jones, Sam Bradford and Jason White about his tutelage and mentoring.

 
#20
Podunker
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 5:28 PM EDT

HC, I remain surprised at how many posters on this site make comments implying that IU’s football program should be a warm and fuzzy environment, or they criticize Wilson elevating his standards of performance and showing the door to players that can’t meet those higher standards. I’m pretty sure that most of those critics never played for a successful football team and don’t understand what it takes to transform a program into one that can compete at the highest level of the FBS division. It’s almost like they’re whining that Wilson is being a meanie.

 
#21
Hoosier Clarion
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 5:56 PM EDT

I share your thoughts for certain. In fact I suspect there will more transitioning of human resources before Spring camp. 2+2 still =4. It makes sense it would take 2 years to clean the ring around the IU recruiting pool.

 
#22
Podunker
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 7:26 PM EDT

HC, I believe Wilson has indicated that he expects more “transitioning” after this year. I may have the numbers a little off, but I think they’re something like this. We have nine seniors that will have used up all their eligibility after this season. But Wilson is planning on bringing in about 20 – 23 recruits for the class of 2013. Most of the difference, or 14 new players, will probably be brought in to replace those seniors that may have another year of eligibility but choose forego their fifth year of eligibility. In addition to those seniors, there is the normal attrition that results from those players that want to transfer, simply quit playing, or who can’t handle the academic requirements.

I think that’s why Wilson asked for and received a seven year contract. It takes more than a couple years to acquire and then coach the type of players necessary to transform a program from cellar dwellers to a team that can produce winning seasons in the Big Ten.

 
#23
vgBMG
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 8:06 PM EDT

These are the numbers by class that I counted on IU’s FB site. Walk-ons are included.

41–Freshmen
40–Sophmores
23–Juniors–19 of which are redshirts
8—Seniors

 
#24
Podunker
Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 9:44 PM EDT

vgBMG, thanks for providing that information. Wow, we are one very young team.

I am assuming, since we did not bring in 41 players in the class of 2012, that most of the walk-ons are freshman. I further assume that most of those walk-ons will not be on the team next year. Anybody know how many walk-ons IU has on the team right now?

 
#25
Shaybo
Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - 2:32 PM EDT

Will Perez be back for th Big Ten season? His size, experience and versatility would be welcome.

 
#26 Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - 3:58 PM EDT

He’s been in practice, but I’m not sure he’ll win any time. Roundtree is coming back this week, so that’s four backs, and I’m not sure Wilson views Perez as a better option than any of them. Injuries have kept him from getting much of a look, and I don’t think Wilson was impressed with Perez as others have been.

 
#27
Hoosier Clarion
Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - 5:33 PM EDT

I am sure 7 years was in the mind of AD Glass also. He seems to assimilate the big picture quickly.

 
#28
MUSTANG
Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - 5:48 PM EDT

How interesting is it that players practice 1-2 weeks in the starting line up and when the game comes Wilson puts in his True Freshman. Go figure!

 


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