Hoosier Morning

Two points guards, senior Jordan Hulls and freshman Yogi Ferrell, helped IU to an overtime victory against Georgetown, Dustin writes.

The IU football team sees progress with the season finale on the horizon, Dustin writes.

Hot-shooting Georgetown couldn’t quite complete the upset of No. 1 Indiana, Liz Clarke of the Washington Post writes.

Indiana sees the Legends Classic title as yet another sign of growth, Andy Katz of ESPN.com writes.

Jordan Hulls’ value went up, while Cody Zeller’s stock slipped in Brooklyn, Luke Winn of SI.com writes.

Rutgers gladly went to the altar with the Big Ten, Steve Politi of the Newark Star-Ledger writes.

Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany is a slippery bedfellow, as Rutgers may soon find out, Dave D’Alessandro of the Newark Star-Ledger writes.


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  • glory, guts, and gumption written all over his grumpy face says:

    Not only did Hulls equal Cody Zeller’s point total of 17, the mop-topped gunner from Bloomington also scored eight of his points in the final 2:01 of regulation and OT. He made arguably the two biggest plays of overtime; the first came on a right-wing pick-and-roll in which 6-foot-8 defensive stalwart Otto Porter switched onto him, but didn’t seem to believe that Hulls had the desire to drive the ball all the way to the rim. When Hulls changed pace, Porter stopped sliding, and that’s when he was blown by for a beautiful runner off the glass — and an and-one free throw, because big man Nate Lubick stepped over late and fouled Hulls after the release. It put the Hoosiers up 70-64, and on their next possession, Hulls perfectly executed another pick-and-roll, knifing a bounce pass to a rolling Zeller that resulted in two free-throws, and another six-point lead. From then on, the game was out of reach.

    It’s a testament to how scared Georgetown was of Hulls’ three-point shooting that coach John Thompson III ordered, on a number of big possessions, his best two defenders — the 6-8 Porter and 6-8 Greg Whittington — to mark a guard who was eight inches smaller. After going 3-of-6 from beyond the arc on Tuesday, Hulls is now shooting 55.2 percent on the season (16-of-29).

    Hulls has been so hyper-efficient that only two players in the country who use at least 15 percent of their team’s possessions score at a higher per-possession rate than he does, according to statsheet.com: Creighton’s Ethan Wragge (1.760 PPP, 15.5 percent usage) and Wright State’s J.T. Yoho (1.608 PPP, 16.1 percent usage). Hulls is scoring 1.602 PPP and using 15.3 percent of Indiana’s possessions.
    He isn’t the Hoosiers’ go-to-guy — their offense is still going to be dominated by Zeller and Christian Watford — but he’s an incredibly valuable floor-spreader in a starting lineup that lacks another elite shooter. There’s no way that Indiana would have the nation’s top offense without him.

  • zydeco says:

    Jordan was good last night and was a PTPer. But Sheehey sparked the run in the second half and should have been in the lineup down the stretch. With Will in the game during the stretch, we increase our lead and don’t go to OT. And Will has flatted out sucked during the past couple games and the first half of last night’s game. Where has his free throw shooting gone?

  • Geoff says:

    #1… That’s good stiff… My kinda post right there!

  • Geoff says:

    Booooo… Thats good stuff…

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    It’s good stuff. He’s basically reiterating the play-by-play and toying around at some stat site.

    But the best stuff, the memorable stuff, “the glory, guts, and gumption written all over his grumpy face” phrase, he has stolen from another blogger that used those exact words to describe Jordy over many occasions the last three years.

  • Drunk Tom Crean says:

    ^ I know, man, it was a kind hommage to that blogger. And the paragraph is entirely taken from Luke Winn’s SI.com article. The one Jeremy quoted. It’s proof you guys read comments before you follow the links…

    As for the G4 phrase it’s been ™-ed a long time ago, of course…

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    It’s good to pay homage, but you should have used blockquotes for the SI piece.

    Is there an Establishment protocol we’re supposed to follow here? It’s not o.k. to read comments and maybe go to links on a later visit? I didn’t realize we had to go to links first(many bloggers of Scoop have commented that a lot of the links are paid sites owned by Zach Osterman and I, admittedly, overlook them thinking they are subscription). My bad.

    Anyway, I no longer read SI because of Seth Davis’s affiliation. If we’re talking about people other than the founder of the ‘glory, game, guts…’ phrase for Jordy, the only additional expert I value is Bobby Knight when were talking about the all-around character and basketball skills of Jordan Hulls.

    And just to be precise, It’s really a G5 phrase..Glory, game, guts, and gumption written all over his grumpy face.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    …when [we’re] talking about

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Let’s Review:

    G-5 = Glory, Game, Guts, and Gumption written all over his Grumpy face.

    D-5 = Dowry, Dame, Dotes, and Dim sum written all over his Drumly face.

  • Drunk Tom Crean says:

    I just think a nice anagram to Bobby Knight is Knobby Bight.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    I just think a nice anagram to Seth Davis is Saved Sh*t.

  • Drunk Tom Crean says:

    Dowry, Dame, Dotes, and Dentyne written all over his Drumly face.

    Funny, but this D-5 would also describe me.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    I thought ‘Drunk Tom Crean’ described you…?

    Dowry, Dame, Dotes, and Drunk Tom Crean written all over his Drumly face.

  • Ron says:

    With the activity today I guess we can consider this site
    is “closed”. Too bad.

  • Ben says:

    I agree Ron. With one person threatening to sue Herald Times, I don’t want anything used against me.

  • Podunker says:

    How did ESPN not award Hulls the game MVP after last night’s game? They gave it to Zeller! Zeller played O.K., not bad, but not MVP good. Hulls really made the difference, on both ends of the floor. He was clutch and demonstrated great leadership.

    I am most impressed with the improvement Hulls has demonstrated on defense. Is it me, or is he simply a lot better on defense this year? He seems quicker, anticipates better, and has improved his defense a lot.

    I love all the little things Zeller does, but I hope he gets his free throw stroke straightened out soon, or he’s going to be a hack magnet. I know it’s early in the season, but shooting about 50% from the line is terrible, especially for a kid that grew up in Indiana (he did make them in overtime, which was a relief).

    If the refs had used any reasonable standard to call fouls last night, GT’s big men would have fouled out about two minutes into the second half. Zeller was getting hacked and shoved all night. I guess he needs to get used to it, because given his talent, I think that’s the way most teams are going to try to play him from here on out.

  • Ben says:

    Same here. I guess the man is sick, so maybe a free pass is in order. Like you said, hopefully it won’t become an issue down the road. What’s the opinion on how much of a difference HP and PJ will make once they come back? Night and day?

  • The Meltdown is Glorious says:

    I think we’re going to destroy people once those two are on the team.

    If they double team Zeller inside, they’ll be open for an easy dunk.

    Rebounding machines who can block shots all day long.

    Can’t wait!!

  • Ben says:

    You and I, baby! You and I.

  • Ben says:

    I sure hope so. I am tired of Zeller being double teamed, with no help. Hopefully they can play in the Ball State game to log some decent minutes. The NCAA acts as if it has to ruffle through pages and pages of information to come to a decision. They already did that. This decision should have been made last night.

  • Ben says:

    Laffy? Are you still there?

  • Double Down says:

    Here’s my recommendation for ending the trolling:

    Comments that will get you kicked or banned from the live show chat:

    – Comments that are below a high school reading level, unintelligible, contain too many misspellings or unnecessary punctuation, etc.

    – Comments that are offensive to other posters or blog authors without offering some form of constructive criticism. If you really have to get something off your chest, and think it might offend, send private email to “[email protected]” instead of posting it openly.

    – Unhelpfully terse comments like “sucks, boring, worst yet, yawn”. If you want to state that you feel said issue is “depressing/bumming you out/making you angry” without offering anything substantive, do it on Facebook and not in here where your comments will infuriate other people.

    – Repeated off topic chat (like religion and politics!!!).

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  • TsaoTsuG says:

    How could anyone have plagiarized “Glory, Guts and Gumption….Grumpy, etc…” verbatum in its entirety and not known it was stolen straight out from Luke Winn, SI today when Winn’s comment was part of the HT’s ‘Good Morning’s offerings? Dustin…..?

    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/luke_winn/11/21/indiana-survives-georgetown/index.html#ixzz2CucSdMCz

  • I mean, as noted in another post, Tsao, I hadn’t been checking in on the comments today because I was traveling back from Brooklyn, but I’m not sure if using Winn’s words in a blog comment rises to the level of plagiarism. I mean, it’s not like he can sell it or take any form of real credit for it whatsoever. The only thing he got out of it is Geoff’s momentary admiration. The poster obviously knew he was quoting Winn and the deception doesn’t gain him anything so far as I can tell.
    (Also, for those of you who don’t know, Luke Winn is really, really, really good.)

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