Live discussion: North Carolina at Indiana

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  • Geoff says:

    Watford drives me batshit…

  • Geoff says:

    Well Jay Williams is officially a moron… “isn’t Indiana supposed to be the slow, methodical half court team?”

    Um, no… Aren’t you supposed to do some friggin research before you open your mouth on national TV?

  • Hoosier Clarion says:

    Pleasing Sheehey shows up every game to play hard especially when CW takes a lasse-faire approach to competition. He soon needs to decide if he is going to be a senior leader on the #1 team in the nation or sell popcorn in the parking lot. WS should start regardless of Watford’s decision.

  • Chet says:

    For a guy that’s hoping to be a first round draft choice I don’t see any reason in the world why CWat should be starting over Sheehy.

    He just isn’t doing it for me (not that I matter for anything). Sheehy plays like his life depends on it and he looks better every game. CWat looks like he is sleepwalking.

  • chris K. says:

    So why did everyone get on my case when I prayed that he entered the NBA draft after last season(as if he’d make a squad, but I could’ve cared less as long as he was out of our hair.)? NOW you wanna’ whine about how good he ISN’T. You shoulda’ recognized it then. We’ll see when Perea get’s into the mix, I think a real impass may result if Perea plays well. At all.

  • William Sheehey says:

    these haters can’t hold me back!

  • Chet says:

    I’d want Will on a flight line, in a fox hole, fighting insect invaders, you name it.

    CWat, I’m not so sure. He’d do his best, I’m sure. Will would have that .357 in his sock and a stiletto in his vest (much as my wife and children would)90.

    The great thing is….we have the option. This is a GREAT team.

  • chris K. says:

    I’ll give Wattford this: he’s been inconsistent. He HAS had big games, he just doesn’t have the athleticism that a 6’9″ forward needs to have at this level. He’s versatile, yes, he has range & can handle the ball well, but he lacks quckness, leaping ability, & strength. He’s had what, 5 dunks since he’s been at IU? 4? 3? I know, I knbow, he hit “the shot”. If only he could get, “the rebound”. or come up with “the block” a bit nmore often. anyway, he’s one of the original “Tommy Tikes”, so he ain’t leaving the rotation anytime soon.

  • chris K. says:

    Wow. This is kinda’ what I thought might happem, certainly what I’d hoped for. Now we’ve made it through to the suspensions being lifted unscathed. Now we will see what we really can be, starting with the Butler game. Ths sky is indeed now the limit.

  • Geoff says:

    UM still only team I see as a threat…

    Didn’t do anything tonight to change that.

  • Geoff says:

    Duke has a chance to do what IU did last year – knock off 3 top 5 teams…

    I think OSU wins though.

  • Ron says:

    what a team…….

  • AWinAZ says:

    You all are right…CWat is now CWhat? You just don’t know what #4 will show up. I profiled his disappearing act last year. The difference is that it doesn’t matter this year. He was a complete bust tonight. He’s the new Verdell Jones, it’s better when he isn’t on the floor. When his alter ego does show up he’s an asset.

    Dear Harvard, YOU ARE/WERE RIGHT ABOUT HULLS. The kid has clearly improved each year in every dimension of his game. He’s also much, much better being the shooting guard with Yogi on the floor.

    Also, remember when Olidipo started running point last year when Mr. Turnover went down? He’s the better for it & so is the team now.

    And 1 more thing….let’s all be gracious winners. We’ve been through hell and back and need to quietly and methodically payback for what we went through from 2007 – 2011. Great teams prove it March, not November.

  • Chet says:

    chris k.,
    CWat has been surrounded by better players IMHO. He will be a valuable player but, as an NBA prospect, he might have been better off leaving. Let’s wait and see, but he’s looking like a solid rebounder and a spot up shooter and that’s it. Everyone else can do SO much.

    He’s a very valuable part of a bigger machine but, again IMHO, that’s his role.

  • psych says:

    That is exactly the kind of second half I expected out of our Hoosiers. What a dismantling. Granted, UNC is not that good this year (yet), but it was still a pleasure to watch.

  • Chet says:

    While he’ll never be considered, objectively, Jordy should be in the running for the Naismith Award.

  • Mass Hoosier says:

    Chris K, I felt the same about Watford last year and before. In fairness, I thought CWat has at least rebounded better this year. I also think he will contribute down the road. He just needs to let the game come to him. He has two dunks in two games. Impressive. HaHa. I think Yogi, Will and Hollowell are obviously going to take his minutes.

  • chris K. says:

    Wait till’ you see Perea. I think OSU will be out biggest challenge. Michigan is good too, & let’s see how good Minnesota & Illinos are as well.

  • AWinAZ says:

    Dramatically different era but fun to compare….

    Alford very slight edge over Hulls, but Hulls rebounds, handles the ball better.
    Keith Smart > Yogi at this point anyway. Plus he hit “the shot”.
    Zeller >> Dean Garrett.
    Olidipo >> Ricky Calloway or Steve Eyl.
    CWhat = Daryl Thomas, although Sheehey > Daryl Thomas.
    2012 bench >> 1987 bench.

  • Geoff says:

    …And Perea.

    He is just the only guy on the team who stops the “flow”

    CWat is where our offense goes to die right now. I hope that changes.

    I just doubt that as a senior he is going to accept the role we need him to fill. Rebounder, spot up shooter, occasional post presence. Other than that, if you’re not wide open on the catch… MOVE THE BALL WAT!!!

  • Geoff says:

    In game coaching: Knight >> Crean

    Cures a lot of ills.

  • Geoff says:

    Mike Davis and TX Southern in double OT vs Colorado…. Entertaining… Anyone else watching this?

  • AWinAZ says:

    I think you are right Geoff with the coaching comparison when it comes to game strategy & the teaching of fundamentals. I give Crean the strong edge on recruiting, sheer perserverance and retention. I was worried Roy would expose us in some way tonight, but we’ll have to leave that to Izzo, again.

    Stepping back, to beat us, a team has to make it a half-court game and play physical in a “let ’em play” style officiated game. Have to make us play defense for 25 – 30 sec. per possession and limit our possessions. Another proven way is to book Teddy Valentine (aka Mr. Show-you-up) to ref the game.

  • AWinAZ says:

    The box score tonight is just insane…

    Starters, including CWhat?, 17 assists & 3 TOs. CWhat had 2 of those 3, matching his pt. total.
    10 total TOs, but 6 steals & 6 blocks, to offset them.
    21 total assists.
    Hulls had 13pts, 8 RB, & 7 assists, no TOs!
    Zeller had 19 pts, 7 RB, 2 blocks.
    Yogi with only 2 pts, but 5 assists & 1 TO!
    Sheehey & Olidipo with 19 pts. each.

    Wow….I’ll take this against all cupcakes we play let alone UNC.

  • TsaoTsuG says:

    We need to be fair with CWat. Bad game, he missed a couple of shots and was conscious of national TV on ESPN. The best They still play with the intensity of last year when they knew if they went down on their knees they would be laughed at.In the process they developed a team brotherhood that took them to the level of very good team and became the motor for this team. When Watford went through the roughs, they brought him back; when VJ was ridiculed, they said you’re one of us; when Hulls was questioned, they pointed at him as their heart.

    What I love about this team is they seem to still have that heart, that intensity, and the brotherhood that forged this team. Watford is one of them…that’s how they see it. He fails, they fail. He hurts, they hurt. They’ll be there for him at practice tomorrow.

    Who they are in this respect, we should be. Yet, from the reading tonight it seems we either fail to understand what it is that puts them near a great future or we don’t understand what’s goes into the play of putting together a team of Hoosiers and making it a Hoosier team.

    Just had to say that.

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