ScoopTalk: An Epic Battle

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  • Drunk Tom Crean says:

    People ask how we’re so cool right now. [Simple answer]

  • Geoff says:

    So is that NFL rule that cost Detroit the game yesterday not the single most stupid thing you’ve ever seen in sports?

    I don’t ever say that a person should lose their job over something short of a serious crime… But the guy who came up with that rule should be suspended from duties for a while.

    Despite what Schwartz said, that is not his fault. It’s on the league and the refs. If I’m this disgusted today without even having a fantasy player in the game – literally no rooting interest – I can’t imagine how pissed I’d be if I were a lions fan and my team was fighting for a playoff spot.

  • Chet says:

    Everyone around me watching the game said the same thing. I could imagine the refs leaving the stadium accompanied by police officers that wanted them to die.

  • Geoff says:

    Well, actually some of the NCAA rulings make just as little sense….

    Speaking of which, it’s been 3 days since the appeal… HOW CAN THERE NOT BE SOME KIND OF STATEMENT OR RULING ON THIS!?

    What a completely inept organization.

  • Geoff says:

    Note to all my Scoop friends… I saved 1 ticket to the PSU game @ PSU on Jan. 7 for a Scooper.

    Our tickets are in Section 125, and should be pretty good – that section is in the first ring around the court.

    So if one of you would like to claim the ticket it is available. You just have to put up with my group during the game, which will be up to 9 other friends and family. But we’re a friendly crowd…

    I may have another ticket or 2 if my father’s best friends from Indiana don’t take up the offer.

    Chet – if you want it, you can even carpool up from Asheville with my brother 😉

  • FireCrean2013 says:


    Indiana coach Tom Crean said Thursday he has no idea when Hanner Mosquera-Perea and Peter Jurkin will hear whether they won their appeals to have the nine-game penalty for impermissible benefits reduced. The two players won an appeal to travel with the Hoosiers — after they left — for Brooklyn and joined the team to watch them win the Legends Classic Tuesday. The Hoosiers play Ball State Sunday and host North Carolina Tuesday in the Big Ten/ACC Challenge. If the suspension isn’t reduced then the two freshmen won’t play until Dec. 15 against Butler in Indianapolis.

    NCAA is an inept organization, I agree.

    But for Crean to make this mistake and put IU in this very delicate situation? Unacceptable. Fire Crean now.

  • Geoff says:

    Still trying to figure out what Crean did… Please enlighten me. (uh-oh, sorry guys)

  • Chet says:

    Geoff, he just can’t read. He thought that it said they traveled before being granted permission when it clearly says they joined the team in Brooklyn.

    Well, it’s clear if you can read.

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    These are the facts:

    1. Drew Adams, a Bloomington South grad who is also a prominent coach in the Indiana Elite AAU program, has been named to Tom Crean’s staff. He’ll assume the role of coordinator of basketball systems, which is a new position on staff.

    2. “It’s pretty special for him to be able to work for a program he grew up around,” said Drew’s father Mark. “He had other offers, but being able to be here and be part of Indiana basketball was something he couldn’t pass up.”

    3. Drew has worked as an assistant coach for several of his father’s AAU teams. Most recently he had a heavy influence on the Team Indiana Under-16 and Under-15 teams. The former included recent Indiana commit Austin Etherington[…]

    4. Mark Adams is the founder and president of the A-HOPE (African Hoop Opportunities Providing an Education) Foundation. Through that program, he has managed to provide $3 million worth of schooling for students who otherwise would have struggled to make it to college, Mark Adams said Wednesday.

    Some of those players have turned out to be top prospects. Emmanuel Negedu was highly-touted wing who ended up at Tennessee; Peter Jurkin and Hanner Perea are top 25 prospects in the 2012 class and played for Team Indiana.

    Endorsed all this.

    He’s the face of all this mess.

    Fire Crean now!

  • Chet says:

    Geoff, that’s really very tempting. My schedule is nothing if not flexible.

    I’m in limbo right now, having broken myself yet again. Not sure what I have ahead of me for the next few months but I should have a better idea in a week or so.

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    Chet your contributions to this blog often amount to a little bit less than a fart in a windstorm.

  • Chet says:

    Wow, quite the breaking news story.

    Oh, did you hear, Truman beat Dewey in an upset.

    Do you just get newspapers when people clean their bird cages?

    Did you hear about Coach Knight getting fired?

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    ^ Lame.     

  • Chet says:

    Diddly brain, as for your “facts”, are you referring to Drew Adams, assistant basketball coach for Steve Alford’s New Mexico Lobos? Man, the NCAA is gonna be all over Alford.

    Apparently, it takes your posts several years to show up on the Scoop.

    You are so incredibly dense.

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    My facts refer to things that happened.

    So IU fired Adams as a consequence.

    Next one on the chopping block: Crean.

  • Laffy says:

    Here’s how FC13 spent his Thanksgiving:

    Starting at 7 am, he began calling random numbers from the phone book and asked, “Is you refrigerator running? and when they replied “yes”, he shot back, “Then you better chase after it before it gets away” and laughed and hung up on them.

    After an hour of doing it, he’d run up the basement stairs to yell to his mom, “I’m the COOLEST, mommy. They fall for my line EVERY time.”

    If he didn’t run back down the basement stairs so fast, he would have heard her say, “Damn, I knew I should have aborted that loser” before she took another swig of vodka.

    This went on the entire day.

    Each hour, he’d race up the stairs again and yell, “Mommy!! I am the KING OF THE WORLD!!! These idiots are STILL falling for my prank. I’m AWESOME!!!!”

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    ^ Irrelevant. Laffy’s just Chet’s sad excuse for a sphincter.

    Here’s Drew Adams’s official page at IU.

    Adams played one year for Alford at Iowa, so it’s irrelevant that Alford is hiring his former player. Alford is clean. Always has been. Crean on the other hand is smarmy. Very very smarmy.

  • Chet says:

    …and here’s his ‘official’ page at New Mexico.

    My gosh, Laffy is so right. You must be the stupidest person I have ever encountered.

  • Geoff says:

    Well, I don’t see any broken rules in those points. And none of the things you just said are what the 2 guys are suspended for.

    Listen, I know that assumptions can be made… But how is it any different that hiring Kenny Williams and recruiting Anya? It’s all a big “so what”. It’s within the rules and done everywhere.

    I think it would be foolish if a qualified person couldn’t get a job because they worked in the AAU circuit for a time… And I have ranted on here about my loathing of AAU. In this case, it’s not even really the persons fault… A kid was born into a family that ran an organization that helps under-privileged African kids better their lives – and undoubtedly that is the outcome for these kids – and ended up working in the family business…

    So, what… Now he should be banned from working in college basketball? Why should a kid trying to make his way in this world be limited by that happenstance? And the recruits… They should be punished by having their opportunities limited by not being able to be recruited by great universities because there has been a connection to that program?

    So yeah… This is on the NCAA and not Crean.

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    Chet your very low intellectual ability was on display for all to see when you spent hours looking for the “meth” girl on the Internet… Now you’re embarrassing yourself again. (1) Perea and Jurkin received impermissible benefits from their coach Mark Adams. (2) Indiana hires Mark Adams’ son. (3) Perea and Jurkin choose Indiana. The connection is obvious.

    But New Mexico? What does New Mexico have to do with this?

    But who am I to ask for a semblance of lucidity from your sick Creanophile mind?

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    Now he should be banned from working in college basketball?

    Of course not.

    And kudos to Alford for stepping in and help clear this mess!

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    More facts:

    After Drew Adams, the son of Mark Adams, was promoted to director of operations/video coordinator in April 2010, Crean signed or picked up commitments from eight players with ties to A-HOPE and/or the Indiana Elite program. According to summer team forms on file with the NCAA, the younger Adams previously coached three of the players with Indiana Elite, and his father acknowledges that two — 2012 commits Perea and 7-foot-1-inch Peter Jurkin, part of a class ranked No. 1 in the country by ESPN — lived at his Bloomington, Ind., house last summer while he was their coach at Indiana Elite.

    Drew Adams’ original hiring in September 2009 as IU’s coordinator of basketball systems came just before an NCAA rule change that would have prohibited IU from signing players he previously was associated with for two years.

    Amid questions about Adams’ ties to his father’s foundation and the Indiana Elite program, the 26-year-old left his hometown program May 6 for a same-titled position at New Mexico under former Hoosiers star Steve Alford.

    Just two weeks prior, IU compliance officials declined to address specific questions posed by about Adams’ role with the Hoosiers, offering a general statement through an athletic department spokesman that their office “engages in active monitoring and educational efforts focused on a broad range of areas for all Indiana University sports programs our institution has reviewed our relationships with other educational institutions, non-profit foundations, and non-scholastic teams and organizations, including A-HOPE and Indiana Elite.”


    Crean has put IU in a very delicate position.

    No amount of toxic vapor from Laffy and Chet can negate this. Crean is guilty. Alford just stepped up to help a former player. Crean should be fired.

  • Laffy says:

    Chet, it’s obvious his mom ate paint chips with lead while she pregnant with him and downed it with vodka.

  • FireCrean2013 says:

    Let him be. He’s busy searching for the “meth” girl…

  • Ron says:

    that was me and it was the neh girl, who is no where to be found

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