Something to keep in mind IF Hollowell’s eligibility is an agent issue


A source told the Herald-Times that the NCAA eligibility issue that kept Jeremy Hollowell out for three games before his reinstatement involved contact between his family and an agent, but had no specific details of that contact, and Jeff Rabjohns of Peegs.com reported something similar on Friday night.

According to today’s statement by Fred Glass, Indiana will not address the issue until later this week. However, it’s still important to note the actual rules regarding agent contact in terms of student-athlete eligibility.

Most notable is the fact that simple contact between an agent and an athlete is not illegal by NCAA rules. Agent contact with a student-athlete is only a violation if the student-athlete takes some form of benefit from the agent or enters into an employment agreement with the agent. Those rules also extend to friends and family members, however, so it is possible for an agent to force a student athlete into a violation without even making direct contact with the student athlete himself. 

An explanation for the NCAA’s rules on agents is linked here and pasted below.

Overview of NCAA Bylaws Governing Athlete Agents

NCAA bylaws

Under NCAA Bylaw 12.3, a student-athlete (any individual who currently participates in or who may be eligible in the future to participate in intercollegiate sport) may not agree verbally or in writing to be represented by an athlete agent in the present or in the future for the purpose of marketing the student-athlete’s ability or reputation. If the student-athlete enters into such an agreement, the student-athlete is ineligible for intercollegiate competition.

Also, a student-athlete may not accept transportation or other benefits from an athlete agent. This prohibition applies to the student-athlete and his or her relatives or friends.

The term “agent” includes actual agents, runners (individuals who befriend student-athletes and frequently distribute impermissible benefits) and financial advisors.

It is not a violation of NCAA rules if a student-athlete merely talks to an agent (as long as an agreement for agent representation is not established) or socializes with an agent. For example, a student-athlete could go to dinner with an agent and no NCAA violations would result if the student-athlete provided his own transportation and paid for his meal.

What happens if a violation occurs?

Example: A student-athlete is befriended by a runner for an agent. The student-athlete is unaware of the connection between the runner and agent. The runner gives the student-athlete long-distance calling cards, pays for meals, articles of clothing and a new car stereo. The student-athlete never asks why the runner is providing him with these items.

The student-athlete’s educational institution becomes aware of the runner’s identity and the provision of benefits to the student-athlete.

The institution must declare the student-athlete ineligible for intercollegiate competition. The institution decides to ask for the reinstatement of the student-athlete’s eligibility and sends a request to the NCAA staff.

At a minimum, the student-athlete will be required to repay the value of the impermissible benefits and will be withheld from a certain number of contests, based on case precedent.

All of that information combined — plus the insinuations in Fred Glass’s statements — suggests that if an agent provided any improper benefits, he did not provide them directly to Hollowell, because in that case, Hollowell’s reinstatement would most likely not be immediate.

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28 comments:

  • Laffy #1


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 7:14 PM EDT

    First of all, great info….thanks.

    Second, so if a runner/agent befriends Jeremy’s younger brother and gives him free stuff…..and neither Jeremy or the brother knows the dude’s identity……Jeremy can get into trouble?

    That stinks.

    What makes zero sense to me is that one dad of the super star football player (Newton?) was actually asking for money but the player was not punished because he, and not his dad, was asking for a handout.

    What the hell…….?

  • Dustin Dopirak #2


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 7:21 PM EDT

    In that case, Newton’s dad was not talking to an agent, he was talking specifically to schools. So it’s an entirely different rule. And that’s one thing to remember. The bylaws don’t don’t have to be consistent with each other. They’re passed independently, so nothing says different sections have to be consistent logically.
    I know it doesn’t make sense, but this is what happens when you attempt to govern the ungovernable.

  • Laffy #3


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 7:40 PM EDT

    You’d think it would be worse asking a school directly for money.

    Just get rid of the NCAA and start over.

  • Dustin Dopirak #4


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 9:28 PM EDT

    It would be worse if the money were actually given. No one says you’re not allowed to ask for money. You’re just not allowed to actually get it.

    If only it were that simple. Whatever would be put in its place would have mostly the same problems. In order to truly “fix” most the of the current problems, you’re going to have to make some moves that fundamentally restructure collegiate athletics (e.g. shrink Division I — by a lot) which in turn would hurt some innocents and also change a lot of things a lot of people love about college sports (e.g. the 64-68 team NCAA Tournament and all of the Cinderella stories that come with it). There are a lot of common sense fixes you can make to the bylaws, but blowing up the NCAA only works if you fundamentally change what it’s governing.

  • Laffy #5


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 9:53 PM EDT

    It’s not that way with the hookers here in Vegas. They run stings all the time and the second someone asks for money, the hooker or the john, they are arrested before any money switches hands.

    There are, of course, no perfect fixes, but how about 4 super conferences of 20 teams each and they all make the Tournament? The scrub teams could be the “Cinderallas.”

    I just think the NCAA sucks with the stuff they go after compared to what people get away with.

  • Debbie #6


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 10:07 PM EDT

    Yes, the NCAA does suck. They should do something about coaches who cheat during a game and there is video evidence to support the cheating; such as when another player shoots free throws for a guy who is a poor free throw shooter.

  • Geoff #7


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 10:19 PM EDT

    I don’t think I’ve ever commented on Debbie’s posts, but I can’t let this one just pass by….

    It’s absolutely brilliant. More posts like this one Debbie!

  • Phirebird #8


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 10:53 PM EDT

    I’m starting to think Debbie is married to Kelvin Sampson

  • Aruss #9


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 11:37 PM EDT

    Any chance anyone will give me credit for breaking this story long before the “journalists” of this site?

  • Top Ten Untweeted Tom Crean Thoughts #10


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 11:53 PM EDT

    10. There’s nothing that you can’t overcome with God on your side. How does that work for Iowa though? Ask Joyce.

  • Larry #11


    Sunday, December 30, 2012 - 11:57 PM EDT

    Well Debbie, since one shooting a free throw for an injured player is not against the rules, how in your twisted mind did you come to the conclusion it is cheating? lol lol Kinda exaggerating the facts there, don’t ya think? You should be standing on a ledge somewhere.

  • Top Ten Untweeted Tom Crean Thoughts #12


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 12:06 AM EDT

    9. @JoyceMeyer: “God is bigger than your questions.” Nice! Potential opening statement tomorrow at Iowa post-game press conference.

  • Top Ten Untweeted Tom Crean Thoughts #13


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 12:08 AM EDT

    8. Cody’s outside shot is definitely getting better. Last year he didn’t score once, this year he only missed twice.

  • Top Ten Untweeted Tom Crean Thoughts #14


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 12:12 AM EDT

    7. The key sticking point for evangelicals and actually for many is the issue of the trinity. That’s a historic doctrine of the church — that God is three in one. Not

    6. three Gods, one God in father, son and Holy Spirit. Mormonism denies that. That’s a sticking point for a lot of Catholic Christians, evangelical Christians, and

    5. pentecostal Christians because they don’t believe that. Now, they’ll use the same terminology. But they don’t believe in the historic doctrine of the trinity. And

    4. people have tried to make it other issues, but that’s one of the fundamental differences. All of this IMHO, of course!

  • Top Ten Untweeted Tom Crean Thoughts #15


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 12:16 AM EDT

    3. Don’t put all my eggs in one basket? Nice try, basket industry.

  • Top Ten Untweeted Tom Crean Thoughts #16


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 12:28 AM EDT

    2. @JohnPiper: “In this fallen state, without a discipline of voluntary self denial, we will be ill prepared for the inescapable involuntary.” By “fallen state” he means Michigan, right?

  • Top Ten Untweeted Tom Crean Thoughts #17


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 12:58 AM EDT

    1. Just got into Iowa City. Big game tomorrow. Wish I could play Verdell. I’ve been thinking a lot about him lately.

  • Dustin Dopirak #18


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 1:43 AM EDT

    OK, Aruss, I’m game. Direct me to the comment where you broke this story — and also where you cited actual sources and didn’t just point out that you heard a Twitter rumor (the part where you said “Mike Conley Sr. strikes again?” doesn’t count — and I’ll give you whatever credit you’re asking for. (Potential compensation goes no further than I’ll buy you a beer if and when you’re in Bloomington, so don’t get carried away here.)

  • Geoff #19


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 1:52 AM EDT

    #3 was funny…

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #20


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 4:25 AM EDT

    Tsao-

    Where are you? You’ve sure done a disappearing act from Scoop..Seems like it’s been over 2 weeks since you’ve posted anything. Hope all is OK.

  • azhoosier #21


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 10:14 AM EDT

    I liked the…eggs in one basket…also. Got to have baskets so UK players taking…”basket weaving”…courses will have something to do..!!

  • azhoosier #22


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 10:37 AM EDT

    They need to clean house at the NCAA headquarters and get rid of the …”book learners…and get people with common sense. Let the coaches run it….LOL….would that be total chaos or what !!

  • Hoosier Clarion #23


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 12:02 PM EDT

    Somewhat tongue in cheek but not totally, let Knight, Keady and D. Smith write the rules and they will be simple, fair and no gray.

  • Laffy #24


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 12:21 PM EDT

    I thought this was an “IU blog site”, not an “HH whine about Thumpers site.”

    Quit lecturing me about “ruining this place” when he barfs all over it with that crap all the time.

  • Larry #25


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 1:05 PM EDT

    This forum has officially turned into a Journal & Courier Purdue sports forum…ugly!!!!

  • Geoff #26


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 1:17 PM EDT

    Larry – I guess I’m glad I have no idea what that means. Why are you reading a Purdue forum, though?

    Even with some of the nonsense, and sometimes because of it, I FAR prefer this blog/forum to any other out there. There are so few places where you can feel a sense of freedom these days that this is refreshing.

  • Aruss #27


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 2:47 PM EDT

    Dustin – I’m fine with sharing credit for the story with you. As a citizen journalist, I’m not bound by the same journalistic rules of ‘sources’ and ‘validity’ that you are.

    I accept your offer of free beer and press passes for the next IU football game I’m in town for.

  • Dustin Dopirak #28


    Monday, December 31, 2012 - 3:08 PM EDT

    Press passes is not in my realm of influence, but I can do multiple beers.

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