Indiana No. 1 in both polls

Indiana retained the No. 1 spot in the Associated Press poll and took over the No. 1 spot in the USA Today poll thanks to a 2-0 week and Duke’s loss to Maryland on Saturday.

The Hoosiers (23-3 overall, 11-2 in the Big Ten) received 43 of 65 votes in the Associated Press poll and 19 of 31 first-place votes in the USA Today poll. They were followed by No. 2 Miami and No. 3 Gonzaga in both polls. Michigan State was No. 4 in the AP poll followed by Florida. Those teams switched spots in the USA Today poll.

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  • J Pat says:

    If IU can win tomorrow night…I will finally feel like they are the true overall #1 in the nation…we will see. Nix did not help MSU with his comments but Dipo needs to be at full strength so we will see…

  • Baakon says:

    When’s the last time IU won in East Lansing?

    Not since Bob Knight. Not in the last 15 years.

    Crean has the better team and is not inferior to Izzo.

    So it is pozzible to beat MSU. But everything is pozzible.

    Why? Because impozzible is nothing. That’s what Crean says.

  • Ron says:

    The Georgetown win is looking better and better

  • docdave says:

    Ron: I thought the exact same thing. #11 is pretty good.

    Baakon: We haven’t won up there forever. It was the early 90’s I believe. I think they can do it, but there going to need that killer instinct.

  • Ron says:

    Few days ago TTG was talking pre-conference scheduling and cupcakes. Looking at the latest RPI ranking IU is #11 or #12, depends on which you look at. We have #’s 5 and 6 (tie) upcoming. I guess if we win 2 of the next three we’ll be sitting good. If our goal is to open NCAA play at the Indianapolis site does the ranking of AP 1st, 2nd,3rd overshadow the RPI at #11. (RPI #’s from ESPN and Yahoo).

  • Dee Flekshun says:

    If the Georgetown win is looking better and better how does the OSU win look now? How does the Minny win look now?

    On the other hand the Butler loss is looking better and better and so do the other two (Illinois and Wisconsin).

    Ron is a genius, like Crean.

  • Ron says:

    Wow. If only I could be as smart as Coach Crean.
    Who by the way is currently #2 in the Coach of the Year.

    And than…. there is you…

  • Larry says:

    IU looked horrible last year up there, got down by 18 & actually came back & led I think, but fell in the end. The biggest problem for IU just might be the health of Oladipo.

  • Roon says:

    Ron answer the question: how does Minny win look now?

    Answer the question Ron: how does the OSU win look now?

    How about the loss to Butler, Ron? Or Wiscy, how about Wiscy, Ron? Good loss, Ron, good loss, eh… Looking better and better. A loss to MSU will likely also look very good a week from today, don’t you think?

    Where did you read Crean is #2 in Coach of the Year? Whoa-aah. In what poll? And who’s #1? Don’t say Izzo — it would be impozzible! Maybe they don’t they have #1 this year, Ron, yes, I think that’s what it is.

    It is what it is.

  • Yesterday's Gone says:

    Hey Ron/Roon

    The coach story was Establishment generated. Miami coach had the first place.

    Hey Roon

    The Doctor said you need to increase the medications. Too excitable man. Wait. He may have said to decrease the medications. Compromise. Increase today and decrease tomorrow.

  • Baakon says:

    Indiana has the best team in the nation with or without Oladipo. The combination of Hulls – Zeller – Watford is simply too much for anyone especially when Crean does not interfere the guys are unstoppable.

    I wonder why is that Georgetown win so important?

    This site is not the same since Desitin ousted Laffy.

  • Pozzible upzet. says:

    It appears that Indiana lost 17 straight games at MSU.

    The Spartans are 15-0 at home this season.

  • TsaoTsuG says:

    I admire the way Crean has defined his vision, recruited players to ‘fit’ that vision, organized his staff according to their complementary skills to carry out specific functions according to their skills and the teams need. The Hoosiers have very much defined one en of a parameter of a paradigm that represents ‘good basketball’. If one thing sticks out about the Hoosiers over the last two years, it is that as a team they play to their strengths and that each of the players understands his ‘role’ and space as defined by the Hoosiers. Whatever basketball style one likes, it is impossible not to recognize how well and close to their potential CTC has them playing, how well he has built and organized a great staff as one unit; and to the extent to which the players have bought into the whole process.

    And, if you are a basketball fan; there is no way in which one doesn’t also enjoy, appreciate and applaud the opposite end of the same paradigm of ‘good basketball’ …the very different, deliberate and lethally efficient basketball Wisconsin plays under Bo Ryan play. (Note: without taking away from Izzo’s own MSU team and the long history of good basketball he represents).

    Two very different, very effective, very well executed styles that define two completely different approaches to the same game. Who do. Watching both is not only entertaining, it is challenging because it is impossible to watch either and not become completely involved in the game.

    It also makes it difficult to watch a poor reproduction of the game in its full potential; such as the NBA which resembles a circus with three simultaneously performing but completely unrelated rings except for the fact that the rings operate under the same tent; an elephant here, an acrobat there and the red nosed clowns on the third one.

    We’re really lucky to be a part of ‘real basketball’.

  • Zippo-Zip Gonzzippo says:

    Crean has defined his vision very clearly when Verdell Jones was here. I have had enough of Crean’s vision. Crean has recruited any and all players he could recruit. His vision is maximum entropy and God bless. If you take Zeller and Hulls out of this team you get a very average Marquette type of team that would struggle to win home games. Next year when Marlin becomes available we will see Crean’s vision in full blozzom.

  • Baakon says:

    Crean is still far from 50% where it matters (that is, in conference play). 30-55. In three years maybe 50%. Definitely better than Wilson. That 1-17 in the first year was entirely on purpose. He ran Jordan Crawford out of Bloomington. What a tremendous kind of player Jordan was we know now. Crean did not want him. There was some improvement in year two and then the team regressed in year three. Then the rest is Zeller.

  • TsaoTsuG says:

    Zippo-Zip Gonzippo, Baakon:

    Do either of you understand how absolutely nonsensical, irrelevant and wasteful of productive reading time your statements are (actually, I think I’m addressing the same individual).

    #14- “If you take Zeller and Hulls…” If you take Michael Jordan off…, …if you take Isiah Thomas and Ray Tolbert off… And, if you take all the idiotic nonsense out of your statement… you’d have a blank screen.

    #15- If I took off everything on the statement ID’d as what Baakon passes for a thought that has absolutely no redeeming merit…then, what is left over would be, “Crean”, “Wilson”, “Zeller”.

    Are there really individuals who are so challenged? Obama is right, we have to do more for mental health and a lot, lot more for pre-K education or our children will end up sounding like these.

  • Geoff says:

    I wonder why Izzo bothers recruiting McDonald’s All-Americans? Seems a little unnecessary… I mean he’s such a good coach that he can win 6 national championships without the likes of Harris, Dawson, Appling, Shannon Brown, Brandon Cotton, Paul Davis, Kelvin Torbert, Zach Randolph, Marcus Taylor, Jason Richardson, and Cleaves.

    Oh wait… He only has one national championship despite having the 7th most McD’s all-Americans over that time span?

    Well, I guess that’s because Duke wins the national championship every year with the best coach of all time.

    What do you mean that even though he’s had 42 of the Hamburgler’s heroes since 1990 he’s only won 4 titles?

    I guess no matter how good a coach you are there’s a couple lessons here:

    1) great coaches need great players to keep their reputations and jobs
    2) even the best coaches don’t win titles every other year (even with the most talented rosters)

  • Geoff says:

    I wonder how good MSU would be if you took Dawson, Appling, and Harris off their team? (that’s their 3 leading scorers and 54% of their team scoring average)

    We can play a Mickey D-Free game and see who wins with these rosters:

    Starters – Hulls, Dipo, Sheehey, Watford, Elston
    Bench – Abell, Creek, HMP, Hollowell

    Starters – Trice (we’ll pretend he’s healthy), Valentine, Russell Byrd, Payne, Nix
    Bench – Costello, Guana

    IU has the advantage in quickness and depth. MSU has the advantage in size, but absolutely no bench. IU has several guys that can shoot it, while MSU doesn’t have a single player on their roster who shoots better than 40% from 3.

    IU’s McDonald’s AA-less roster brings 58 ppg onto the floor, including the potential B1G POY, 3 double-digit scorers, the B1G’s active career points leader, the B1G defensive POY, and 4 guys who shoot better 48% from 3-pt land.

    MSU’s new roster brings a total of 33 ppg to the table, including 0 double-figure scorers, and yeah… Zero career accolades.

    So I hope that both coaches sit all their McDonald’s all-Americans tonight, and we’ll just see how good a coach Izzo really is.

  • Baakon says:

    People think Izzo is the better coach but I think this is a contest that Crean can always win. His entropic style is impossible to outcoach and far superior to anything Izzo is putting on the court. The only thing we have to fear is Crean’s system itself. But he has the right players and the right intangibles along with God’s blessing (and apparently Tim Doyle’s) to go all the way. Rollercoaster all the way. Meanwhile MSU will have a horrible shooting night and Izzo will be purple only six minutes into the game.

  • Caitlin the caretaker says:

    If you really want to see a “very average Marquette type of team,” simply look at Bob Knight’s teams 1994-2000. Only a change in coach (Mike Davis) could get those boys to play hard, which is why they went to the finals the year after Knight left.

  • kurk81 says:

    This just in from Zippy and Baakon: If you take the shrimp out of a shrimp cocktail, you’ve got spicy ketchup. Made by a chef who obviously doesn’t know what he’s doing.

  • Podunker says:

    Got to love the continued effort to use the word “entropy” in some of this troll’s posts, as an attempt to make otherwise inane comments sound sophisticated. It’s kind of cute when juveniles learn a new word and continue to experiment with it. Eventually, through trial and error, they discover the proper context. This troll’s not there yet, but you must admire his continued effort.

  • Albany Great Danes says:

    Poopsky you’re squirming and twisting and wriggling and agonizing some more and then one day: BOOOM! you discover that the poop you’ve been dumping all along is anisotropic. Then</em, what are you going to do–that's what I would like to know…

  • Baakon says:

    Podonkey thinks he has the monopoly on words. He only has monopoly on poop, that he’s a major producer of, worldwide. Insignificant and envious he is the champion of lost causes. Google images for “Podunker Hoosiers” and you get lots of stuff like this. Smells of Husky Turd.

  • Baakon says:

    Seriously: google images for “Podunker Hoosiers”. You get almost all doctored images posted here ever. Here’s one that I like and that I missed at the time. Very, very funny and clever!… (Meanwhile I bet Podunker’s enthalpy has doubled in the last 30 minutes.)

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