Live Discussion: Indiana at Michigan State

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  • Geoff says:

    5 Things for MSU Game…

    1) Zeller must continue the recent trend of diversifying his offense – The turn-around jumper has looked good… Now it’s time to add another consistent wrinkle.  Cody also needs to run Nix to death.  This seems obvious, but for some reason it never happened in the first game.  If Cody just tries to bang away at the brick wall like he did last time I see IU walking away with their heads down.

    2) Hulls needs to pay closer attention to Harris – So far IU has done a good job of not letting the same player get over on them twice (Ross Travis/AJ Hammons). Hulls isn’t great at defending dribble penetration, but he can certainly chase a shooter around and defend on the catch.  I’d take my chances doubling off of other players and make sure Harris isn’t lighting us up again.

    3) allow Payne to fail – I just don’t believe that Payne can go 3-4 from range again… But I’d love to see him try if I were Tom Crean.  Because of his advantage in size, length, and athleticism over Watford I just assume he wander around the perimeter and not harass us inside. 

    4) Watford needs to continue his strong play – he must be sensing that the end is near because I’ve never seen CW play with this much intensity this consistently.  He is matching up against a bigger, more athletic player, but Payne has to guard him too.  I’m hoping to see plenty of transition 3’s and strong drives to the hoop from Christian.  Payne shouldn’t be used to finding perimeter shooters trailing the play, nor is he laterally quick enough to close out  CWat and take away the drive.  Big night from our senior!

    5) Sheehey – he has actually played well in 2 of the losses (13 against both Butler and Illinois) but tonight I think we need an extra motivated Sheehey.  We’re not sure how Dipo is really doing (I think he’s 90%) and MSU has size and athleticism up front with Dawson, Payne, Nix, and Costello. He could also be matched up with guys like Harris and Valentine.  Im having flashbacks of when we switched him onto Burke for spurts to keep him off balance, and I’m not counting on Appling getting into foul trouble again, so that would be a great tactic once more.  We need his energy, defense, rebounding and scoring tonight more than ever tonight.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Harvard’s 5 Keys..

    Remy, Remy, Remy, Remy…and more Remy.

  • Good Time says:

    Coach Crean needs to get more aggressive with refs.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    I’m disappointed in the announcers overshadowing so many fine young men to endlessly talk about one player. Do all we care about anymore in the college game is the kid that fits best at the next level..? I’d fire all their asses.

    Let the college game live on its on merits and leave the discussions of the NBA to hotel maids that bring them all “World Peace.”

  • Geoff says:

    Tsao – please look me in the eyes and tell me that the reffing wasnt greatly in MSU’s favor that half. Cody should have shot at least 6 FT’s, but has 2. Matt Costello has more FT attempts than Cody. They’ve let a lot go on our end underneath. MSU got to the bonus with 5 min to go in the half. IU never got there. Sheehey gets called for 2 ticky-tac fouls in 10 seconds, and MSU gets away with a few off arms on their end…

    Why doesn’t Payne miss against us?

    Watford is surprisingly effective on Nix.

  • Geoff says:

    Did I just witness IU effectively defend an underneath oob!

  • Geoff says:

    Worst rule in basketball. Shit happens. If there’s no intent then you can’t curb a practice. Quit over-reffing games. The NCAA sucks balls.

  • Geoff says:

    Tsao…. Did you just see Yogi get tackled? No call. Turnover and a lay-up for MSU’s first lead…

  • Geoff says:

    Ok… We’ll take the and 1. Guess the refs were feeling guilty.

  • Geoff says:

    Ok this is getting ridiculous… Payne is 6-7 from 3 against IU in 2 games this year.

    He is 5-14 in 96 other career games.

  • Geoff says:

    Ok… Tsao… Now what. Flagrant on Watford… Nothing on Nix.

    Give me a break.

  • Geoff says:

    Hightower is officially a JOKE

  • Good Time says:

    It’s not bad enough that we have to listen to the BS announcers, but to then bring in the clown Magic Johnson is a bit much.
    Someone needs to tell ESPN about these announcers, what they tell Ringling Bros.
    “bring in the elephants, because we have enough Clowns for the show.”

  • Geoff says:

    Perfect defense by Zeller on the Hedge. Took OT in the chest and didn’t come close to fouling on the steal attempt. Foul called… Guess who… Hightower.

  • Geoff says:

    Uh oh, oob under

  • Geoff says:

    What an embarrassment for MSU clock manager…

    Not sure why Zeller doesn’t take that ball and go with it though.

  • Geoff says:


    Omg… What an embarrassing call by the ref.


  • Geoff says:

    All that BS and they still couldn’t beat us.

  • Yesterday's Gone says:

    The clock-keeper almost beat us.

    The ref’s almost beat us.

    MS played tough, almost beat us.

    We almost beat us.

    Damn Good Win. Thanks Men!

  • HallofFame says:

    I couldn’t believe it when Cody got hit in the balls and Valentine called it and then reversed the call. The refs tonight were really trying to homer us. We earned this victory.

  • Larry says:

    I’m not one to complain about the refs, typically I think all do a good job & theres a few bad calls on both sides, but not tonite, IU got screwed a few times

  • Larry says:

    Simply astonishing, oh, where is Debbie when ya need her?

  • Podunker says:

    Well, Geoff is right on the mark! The refs did their best to take that game away from IU, but some how, Crean’s team kept their composure and won it anyway.

    That was the worst called game I’ve seen this year. Zeller gets hit in the stones, the refs review the video tape, and yet there is no foul called. Yogi gets tackled on the way to a lay-up, and there is no call. Since I had a small stroke about half way through the second half, I can’t remember more specific examples, but I know there were a great number of them. And who was managing that clock? He was a joke! He gave MSU another five seconds. I’m excited we won, but those refs should be penalized for that game. They were the only thing that kept MSU in the game.

    Did you see the flop by MSU’s big man. He laid there on the floor as if George Foreman had hit him with a straight right, making sure the refs were going to notice that he got bumped in the nose. Unbelievable that they called a flagrant foul on that.

    O.K., we beat Izzo, we beat 15,000 loud fans, we beat MSU’s players and we beat the most incompetent refs to be assembled on a court this year. Now we have to finish the season off at MN and win the two remaining home games.

    Proud to be a Hoosier tonight!

  • iulongago says:

    Can we just stop with the “Notre Football Web Site” crap? So what if the refs were biased or bad (ask teams that come into Assembly Hall as to how unbiased they think the officiating is). IU is going to run into refs in the NCAA tournament who are going to “let teams play” and we, of course, are going to think that IU is getting screwed. The ‘huge’ takeaway from tonight is that IU played through that,IU took MSU’s “punch in the mouth” with about 3 minutes to go and then won. The guys on the floor and on the bench did a Great job against a really good team and coach in a really tough environment.

  • Podunker says:

    Come on, where are the trolls? Where are all those “Crean is a clown,” “Crean can’t coach,” “Crean is a just a recruiter,” “Crean is a used car sales man,” etc, etc? Cats got your tongues? Can’t find any inane comments tonight? What, no clever critiques? No juvenile posts that nit pick the coach of the number one team in the USA? No slanderous comments about the coach that just lead his team to the first victory at MSU in over 20 years?

    O.K., so you’ve been proven, beyond any doubt, that your ridiculous criticisms of Tom Crean are without merit. So do one of the following: 1) Shut up for the remainder of the season, or 2) admit that you were totally wrong, have no idea what good coaching looks like, and would not know what a good college coach looked like if your life depended on it.

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