ScoopTalk: Much discussion about zone defense

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  • AWinAZ says:

    The 5 keys to this game are;
    1. Z’s passing w/o TOs. NO DRIBBLING!
    2. Sheehey & Oladipo running the baseline & moving constantly, like normal.
    3. Watford hitting HIS wing 3.
    4. Yogi drives & doesn’t leave his feet.
    5. Our own Defense. More Syracuse TOs than IU TOs.

    Game over….we do the above & we win by 10 pts.

    I’d love to see it, but I don’t think Hulls will be much of a factor in this game. The match-up is unfavorable, unless he’s drilling them from 25 – 30 ft., which he can do.

    I hope like hell Crean watched the ’87 game & sees how to beat this opponent. His record against them isn’t so good so I hear.

  • Aruss says:

    Hull can be effective if we execute ball reversals on offense. I’m actually glad we’re playing against zone so guys won’t try to do one-on-one isolation moves in the half court. The zone will force us to pass the ball around which is when our half court offense is most effective.

    Zeller’s TO’s were definitely costing us the game against Temple. Hopefully, he shows more composure tonight.

  • Larry says:

    Ya think the “87” title game has something to do with what we should or shouldn’t do tonight?

  • Larry says:

    I will repost this again. Zeller’s outside game or the very lack of it costs the TO’s. It is so easy to defend him when all he does is catch the ball, turn, wait 3-5 seconds, dribble drive to the basket for a layup, dunk or “pray” he gets fouled, which is pretty much his only offense. UNLESS now his skills far, far outweigh his opponents. I don’t see that being the case from this point on.

    I watched the center for Gonzaga, he would catch the ball 10ft from the hoop, without hesitation turn & shoot. Next time he would drive to the hoop. That’s what Z is lacking, the last 2 opponents, when Z catches the ball 10 ft from the hoop, the defense was 5 ft off him.

  • Larry says:

    The rest of the season all boils down to whether Zeller can generate any offense!!!

  • Ron says:

    Dustin-Jeremy…Nice coverage in the HT today.

  • Podunker says:

    Larry, Zeller has generated offense in every game he’s played. I would suggest that it is the efficiency of Zeller’s offense that will determine the outcome of the game. He does not have to score 20 points for IU to win, but he can’t afford to cost IU possessions with six sloppy turnovers. And he has to make his FTs.

  • Larry says:

    Thanks PO, my point exactly. His TO’s when defended well on his dribble drives to the basket, missed shots when defended well, he could remedy that with some outside shooting but he does look horrible on outside shots, why? I don’t know, he’s a good ft shooter.

  • coachv says:

    i’m with larry. there are 10-15 foot jumpers to be had against this zone and cody did not develop that area of his game. too late now. hope that doesn’t cost us the game. if it does, it’s on coach. the irony is cody could easily make that shot.

  • Ron says:

    That shot is there many times each game.

    Probably good thing you pointed that out. Bet Cody or the coach had never thought of that.


    The irony could be Cody would be shooting that shot 10 times a game – if he could easily make that shot.

    Could be he is soooo bad at that shot that the coach told him never to shoot it again.

  • coachv says:

    or it could be, ron, that you are stupid. and you can’t fix stupid.

    crean should have ordered cody to work on that shot while playing all those cupcakes, a discussion we have had here before.

  • Joe says:

    Your negative Coach V. Chill out. Try fixing that….

  • Ron says:

    Well. I guess you think my response is stupid. Which is ok because I thought your comment was stupid.

    You have no idea what is going on during the closed practice.

    “it’s on the coach”. Coach can do what the coach can do. No more no less. Team needs to perform. I mean start blaming the coach before the game begins.?

    I’m sure no one wants to win this game and the remaining games more than the CTC and the guys. Some things will work and some won’t. CTC is detailed orientated enough that he has covered all the bases possible. And you really think he has not considered the 10-15′ shot?

  • Chet says:

    Don’t be offended, Ron. coachv is pretty confident he know more about basketball than, well, basically, everyone, including Coach Crean, as he frequently advises us of the pedestrian mistakes CTC often makes that he never would. He’s a little too skilled as a coach for that.

    We should feel fortunate that he posts here, as he obviously must not only have a team of his own in the tournament, but that team must be a higher seed than simply a #1, if a dunce like CTC could get a team in that position. The Scoop simply amuses him as he reviews video and prepares for the next round.

    OR…he could just be full of stuff and tries to impress people by being an arrogant jerk.

    It’s one of the two. You make the call.

  • Ron says:

    Marquette is looking scary good.

    Otherwise, just the stress building.

  • Chet says:

    Think so? I just thought Miami was just looking scary bad. Miami can’t throw the ball in the ocean. That’ll make whoever you’re playing look better than you.

  • Chet says:

    Miami/Marquette is looking like Wisconsin/Ole Miss.

    Just plain ugly.

  • coachv says:


    first, your grammar sucks.

    second, he started it.

    third, i’m telling my mom.

  • Ron says:

    Run out to White Castle and OS takes the lead?

    Barkley must love it.

  • Joe says:

    Wow Coach V, what a response. You trying to insult me, or make me laugh? If insult, you failed miserably. Tell your mother I make love too all the time. 🙂

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