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  • Ron #1


    Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 9:32 AM EDT

    Dustin…

    Ignore my earlier question about the paywall/Martinsville paper.

    Here’s a new one. What is the difference between an official and unofficial visit by recruites. Unoffical means no Coach contact or what?

  • Ron #2


    Friday, July 19, 2013 - 11:17 AM EDT

    Ron, you need to stop with the stupid questions. Martinsville paper / paywall? Who cares. Official visit vs. unofficial visit? Probably everybody knows the answer to that. Pretty sure Dustin is tired of the non-questions you keep asking. Get over it man. Grow a couple of big ones. If it’s really important to you have HH or TTG ask. They usually get a response. Probably goes back to the days of when you used the name Rufus. Do the **** and you loose credibility. What do you expect.

    Get a life man. Go on a ride. And that idea of a ‘Scoop’ baseball cap. Stupid. Lucky they still let you read the posts much less respond.

    You know the days are numbered when the spam protection question is ‘Sum of 2 + 3 + 101 – Your Age x IQ.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #3


    Friday, July 19, 2013 - 11:32 AM EDT

    I do know the difference between cola and uncola.

    When it comes to Hoosier basketball, I would tend to believe an “official” visit involves a “good” Christian. Hope that helps.

  • TsaoTsuG #4


    Friday, July 19, 2013 - 1:18 PM EDT

    Ron, official visits are totally paid for by hte University; that would be lodging, transportation, meals and other entertainment (bowling alley, show tickers, etc.)

    Unofficial, it’s all on the prospect. The University or any representative, friend or alumni can not pay for u$s0.01 of the visit. In other words, the prospect can visit the campus as many times as he wants to but bear all his expenses to and from the campus, mostly move himself around the campus, most of the costs incurred by the prospect may be on him. Not sure, but activities on campus perhaps can be “comped” tickets, maybe a meal (in other words ‘incidentals’, but no major expenses like travel or lodging. Basically, that’s the difference.

    There may be some rules regarding coach contact, and differences during various ‘contact periods’, but I do not know about these today. The Varsity Club can probably tell you. I believe a couple of the B1C schools actually put the rules in their athletic websites, but I do not think IU does. The other thing I am not sure about is the rules regarding parent’s expenses during an official visit.

    Hope it helps visualize the difference.

  • Dustin Dopirak #5


    Friday, July 19, 2013 - 1:44 PM EDT

    Ron, no problem with the question. Tsao, thanks for answering. Coaches can have contact with the prospects on both official and unofficial visits, but one difference is that on an official visit, a coach can have contact with the recruit off-campus. For instance, when a player is on an official visit, the coaching staff can take him out to dinner at an off-campus restaurant. The IU restaurant of choice is usually Janko’s Little Zagreb. (Or however that official title is, but the point is that it’s the awesome steak place on sixth near the square.)

  • TsaoTsuG #6


    Friday, July 19, 2013 - 2:58 PM EDT

    Is #2, signed ‘Ron’ really Ron’s, or an usurped identity?

  • Ron #7


    Friday, July 19, 2013 - 4:05 PM EDT

    Both are me. I have some very dynamic conversations with myself. In Sears the other day looking at clothing. To myself, but must have verbalized something like ‘what junk’. From the other side of the rack a young clerk peaked through the rack of clothing and said ‘I agree’.

  • TsaoTsuG #8


    Friday, July 19, 2013 - 4:58 PM EDT

    Ron, I agree (in reference to your comment #2, that is an important question/answer for this blog. It is probably a much violated area of recruiting. Alumni will offer ‘rides’ to athletes, invite them to dinners off-campus where the coaches just happen to be eating themselves. The ‘unofficial’ visits are probably much more likely to be the situations where violations are made and, often out of sight and out of control of the coaches. And sometimes, at their behest. Not an unimportant distinction, though monitoring it must be a pain.

    I’ve told the story previously of former A’s owner Charlie Findley, an IU alumn, being asked to invite a prospect to IU. Suddenly, the tower at Monroe County Airport was receiving a request for permission to land from his Boeing 707 (or something that big). They took off running anticipating the 707 landing on its runways, generally designed for Cessnas. Talk about ‘unofficial’ visits…

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