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1. HOOSIERS HQ
It was a sobering loss to Missouri on both sides of the ball for Indiana, Dustin writes.

2. IT’S INDIANA
Former IU wide receiver Tandon Doss made the biggest play of his career and celebrated his birthday with a punt return for touchdown in Sunday’s Ravens’ game, Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun writes.

Robert Johnson gave Indiana the answer it wanted, even if Tom Crean didn’t answer his phone on Friday, Eric Kolenich of the Richmond Times-Dispatch wrote.

Missouri did what it should have against Indiana, but it was still “kind of a big deal,” Joe Walljasper of the Columbia Daily Tribune wrote.

The deal Seton Hall cut by hiring IU target Isaiah Whitehead’s high school coach is just another charade the NCAA shouldn’t stand for, Andy Glockner of SI.com wrote.

3. BIG TEN COUNTRY
The University of Michigan athletic department had enough money to spend on skywriting above Ann Arbor and East Lansing, Brandon Howell of MLive.com wrote.

4. ONE FOR THE ROAD
Kind of a big deal — Anchorman.

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14 comments:

  • Old Sports Dude #1


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 9:23 AM EDT

    I am so glad we got RJ Jr. But where was Crean Friday? He knew what time the kid was going to make his announcement. How could he miss two calls? He should have been off his phone during this time. Maybe it is stuff like this that is costing us players. No excuse except death of a relative for him to not be available. Geez!

  • Ron #2


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 10:11 AM EDT

    Maybe he has tired of the ‘bad news’ received recently..?

    Good read on the Seton Hall/ Whitehead/ ncaa article. Would be nice to have a principled, honourable and consistant administrator for college sports. Instead, we get the ncaa.

  • TsaoTsuG #3


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 1:53 PM EDT

    My take on Chap comes from an interview (HT- DD maybe?, I believe so but could be wrong) when he announced he was going to try-out for a job in the NFL and said something to the effect that (paraphrase) ‘he was now going to get in shape and slim down because he had been too heavy through college’. What was Chubby doing in college? Which was the perfect definition of the attitude that prevailed when he privileged us with his appetite (not for action) and why IU had been 0-for whatever with his leadership and coaching who thought it was ok.

    There is a step before you gain respect from other programs…respect yourself.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #4


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 2:15 PM EDT

    Is it just me, or does Jeremy look a bit like Ron Burgundy?

  • Dustin Dopirak #5


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 2:23 PM EDT

    That was an interview with me during pro day. When he left school (after he got a master’s in accounting) he spent two months in Arizona doing nothing but working out and eating on a diet put together by his agent so he could lose weight. I asked him if he wished he did that in college, and he said he actually needed the weight for all of the hits he was taking. We agreed to disagree.
    But I think it’s fair to point out here that this person who apparently had no appetite for action still led the Big Ten in passing as a senior, completed more passes at a higher percentage than any quarterback in Indiana history, threw for more yards than any IU quarterback other than Antwaan Randle-El and more touchdowns than any other than Kellen Lewis. And he was an honor student in accounting. “Chubby,” might have been 15 pounds overweight, but he did a lot in college.

  • Double Down #6


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 3:02 PM EDT

    DD, apparently those who find fault with Chap during his tenure expected him to play cornerback as well. See, if he wasn’t so fat and out of shape, he would have played on both sides of the ball and contributed to bringing Indiana’s points against average from the mid-forties down to the low-thirties.

  • Aruss #7


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 3:30 PM EDT

    TT – you need to be better informed when posting on here. Chap was one of the finest gingers to play for IU and overachieved on the field and off.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #8


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 5:30 PM EDT

    A lot of coaches sure pick up pounds fast…

    They’re always pressed for time and likely frequently picking up junk food on the run. I guess some are probably pretty big beer guzzlers too.

    It’s funny how there are so many mixed messages based on the position played…We want to turn a lineman into Shamu meets Sumo wrestler, but the rest must “respect” themselves and stay lean. Different buffet lines? Twinkies and t-bone’s and all things on tap for the guys up front..? Tofu, snow peas, and almond milk for the sexier positions that get to hold and catch the pigskin?

    I could see how it would be purposefully get lost in the wrong buffet line.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #9


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 5:33 PM EDT

    I could see how [one could] purposefully get lost in the wrong buffet line.

  • TsaoTsuG #10


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 5:42 PM EDT

    Aruss- No doubt that when I’m wrong it can be pointed out by most who periodically make educated and insightful comments here. And I’ll likely accept it if it has merit. But, in the very least, it’s got to be by someone with a history of thought out comments, intelligence, a mature base of knowledge about athletes and sports, a critical eye based on consistent observations and an abundance of judgment justifying respect for their contributions.

    In the very least the contributions have to be interesting, cerebral, add to my base knowledge about IU sports and, for art’s sake,decently written.

    All of the above, that ain’t you.

  • TsaoTsuG #11


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 6:09 PM EDT

    For all, my comment was based on a quote he (Chappell) gave the HT (again, a DD story I believe). My perception has always been that getting yourself in optimum physical shape is a by-product of desire to excel, particularly when you are ‘the’ leader. In other words, as discussed before, doing ‘all the little things that put a competitor in a position to win’.

    I do remember thinking (at that time)- ‘so you wait until it’s time to do this for pay before deciding optimum condition is an issue?’ Sorry, but it speaks loudly of where we’ve (the Hoosiers) have been. Hopefully, that is changing.

    I do know that Chappell was very demanding of himself academically (which is a really good thing), a talented passer and, according to many sources, a good person. We shouldn’t confuse issues, there seems to have been a difference between what we and what our opponents sent out on the field.

  • TsaoTsuG #12


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 6:29 PM EDT

    Dustin Dopirak…my point exactly. Thanks for confirming it. The factual part of your comments underline and support my point. You shouldn’t need to feel the social pressure or have to justify or caress your reporting of facts. That’s what you do and why they call it ‘a profession’.

  • TsaoTsuG #13


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 7:31 PM EDT

    Harvard, you actually have a point. We do push these kids to un-natural sizes and weights; fully knowing the consequences in terms of their health later in their lives (when they have families and children to whom they are and should be accountable).

    We actually have people here posting that ‘we need them bigger…bigger!’ And, the justification is, ‘all the others are doing it’. It seems to me to be similar to coaching players ‘to lead with their heads’ (or put your head in the numbers) while knowing that, in many cases, their brain scans already show the indication of brain damage. (Or the way they used to deny water during practices as an indication ‘for pansies’).

    I love the game. I’m addicted to it. But, I have to admit and recognize that the addiction- like heroin, or cocaine or marijuana- has very negative consequences. And, my addiction to the game could have absolutely awful consequences…for others.

    Forcing boys and young men to carry 300+ lbs and destroying their health and futures is beyond bad. Multiply brain damage to the health damage we cause and I can only conclude that the choice faced by Theodore Roosevelt on whether or not to ban football needs to be reconsidered. Or rules concerning standards adopted.

    At the very least, we should demand participation criteria that considers the long-term welfare of the competitors. Maybe setting limits to weight/height formulas, developing rules that reduce the likelihood of traumatic head injuries (for example, designing shirts that have 2-2 1/2 inch red line from shoulder to shoulder banning any hit or touch- like grabbing- above it) with a 25 yard penalty and a game suspension +1 for violators (to a minimum degree that is on the way already, only there needs to be more severity). The game itself won’t change, it will just be less savage.

    Why not? Wrestling (the real kind, not the pros) already has rules that limit (the other way)extreme weight loss and ‘going down (X categories) to protect the health of participants.

    Am I being a hypocrite? Absolutely…and I don’t want to think about it,…that is my problem and my moral (or immoral) contradiction.

    Like Stan says in the old movies Harvard, ‘now you’ve done it Ollie!’

  • Harvard for Hillbillies #14


    Monday, September 23, 2013 - 9:48 PM EDT

    Tsao-

    And your perceptions about Chappell seem to function in parallel to many the college basketball players that simply view college hoops as the audition for the pros.

    Journalists already concluding that a “going home” party refers more to successfully readying oneself/marketing oneself to the highest degree that makes an NBA exec salivate. “Home” has nothing to do with the end-game that could make the most out of your college experience and watching your team benefit to its fullest by way of concentrating on the current job at hand. The focus has moved and the lure of the big cash makes college seem more like a rest area stop for those that possess enough size and skills to have a chance to play beyond days at what they claim an alma mater.

    And though you may have your body in and game in its prime attractive state for the NBA scouts, the real crime is the fact that your mind is there instead of appreciating your teammates on the bench and the youngsters in the crowd.

    In my humble opinion, “going home” should be a metaphor for giving your everything to make college ball separate and unique from the self-infatuation parties your own glory train as your pounding down the tracks to be the next MJ.

    Whether fat in poundage ready step it up post-graduation at training camp or fat in arrogance while cutting college short, all the while eying the only goal of any importance(the NBA), college, for the top athletes is nothing more than bathroom break on the highway to fame..And fame is the home rather than the last humble cheer for selflessness and unstoppable grit for team. “The Movement” you take while on the way to pros. And we’re supposed to drop our jaws in awe because of some mesmerizing flushes.

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