Indiana downs North Florida, 89-68

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Indiana senior guard Evan Gordon scored 15 points on 7-for-9 shooting, sophomore guard Yogi Ferrell had 14 points and seven assists and freshman forward Noah Vonleh posted 13 points and 11 rebounds to lead Indiana to an 89-68 win over North Florida at Assembly Hall on Saturday night.

Sophomore forward Jeremy Hollowell added 12 points in the Indiana win. The Hoosiers posted a season-high 17 assists to 11 turnovers. North Florida point guard Dallas Moore scored 27 points on 11-for-17 shooting. The Ospreys were just 26-for-70 as a team (37.1 percent) however, so everyone other than Moore shot a combined 15-for-53 from the field.

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Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 1:45 PM EDT

Wow, no comments after three “stories” about last night’s game. What’s up Hoosier fans, too busy shopping for Christmas? Or maybe you’re just bored with IU’s easy win over weak competition.

Here are my comments from yesterday’s game:

1. while it was an easy victory for IU, it exposed some sloppy play at and under the rim. How many of IU’s shots were blocked? How many times did IU players fail to finish at the rim? Too many, especially when you consider the competition.

2. With a 30 point lead and five minutes left to play, what was Crean thinking by leaving his starters in the game? He should have emptied the bench. It makes absolutely no sense for Crean to leave any starter in the game with that kind of lead, against that competition, during the last five minutes. Two reasons why; first, why risk an injury to a starter in garbage time? Secondly, why refrain from rewarding the back-ups for their hard work. IU has two bigs that are not getting much playing time, and they need game experience to develop. And they have a bunch of second and third team players that I presume deserve to be rewarded with time on the court in garbage time.

Crean managed the last five minutes of the game badly yesterday. It was dumb to leave the starters in as long as he did.

Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 4:18 PM EDT

I was probably my fault Podunker. I captured too many snakes…

I didn’t quite understand leaving the starters in the game as well, especially when the game was in hand. If anything, could have been a learning opportunity for the bench. The same could be said during the Duke-FSU football game. Why FSU left Winston in as long as they did, I’ll never know. Pad his stats for year end awards maybe?

So far we have won the games we were expected to win, but lost to whom we was favored to lose too. Looks like Oakland is next. Wish it was Kentucky, or someone of a higher caliber. Oh well.

Harvard, this guy can teach you a thing or two about snakes. This is why you never, EVER trust a snake.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 4:33 PM EDT

Another stalker..Yippee. Looks like Harvey got under the skin of Laffie, the Sequel.

If Crean can’t manage the last five minutes a blowout, it should give clue to how he manages the more vital minutes in a game. Duh….

Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 4:37 PM EDT

However if you didn’t post those messages, I apologize.

Double Down
Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 5:07 PM EDT

Is every single thread about basketball going to devolve into an indictment of the head basketball coach? I understand that we need to discuss this as part of the game, but it would be nice to talk specifically about the play on the court as well.

I didn’t get a chance to watch yesterday’s game. I’d love the hear from those that did what are some of the aspects of the game that were intriguing, disturbing or anything that stood out to you?

Just from looking at the stat sheet and reading the recaps, a couple of thoughts:

- Sound like Gordon had a nice game and could possibly be settling into his role at back-up PG. Good news if he can be counted on for taking care of the ball and giving us 8 – 9 pts a game. The occasional 15 pt game being a bonus.

- Troy Williams looked active with 7 boards. But horrible shooting night. What was Troy’s issue last night? Forcing shots?

- Looks like Stan, although he didn’t shoot the ball well, stepped up with 8 reb in 17 min . Also, only 1 TO to 2 Assts.

- Vonleh only had 1 PF in this game. Solid.

- Hollowell shot well, but more importantly in 21 min, ZERO turnovers. Well done Jer.

- Nice to see Etherington find his stroke. He’s not one of my favorite guys to see on the floor, but if he develops some more consistency in his stroke, count be in on Team Austin.

- Overall we had a better 3 pt shooting night, however, still pretty shooting % overall. 33%. Mostly due to Troy at 0 – 3. Troy doesn’t have a bad stroke, so I feel like some of his shots will start falling later in the year.

- Devin Davis – I read he messed up his ankle. This would be a big loss for us if he missed prolonged time. Other that Vonleh, he brings the most intensity and energy to this team. I’ve been pleasantly surprised with his play and hope he gets better soon.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 5:12 PM EDT

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Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 5:16 PM EDT

To me IU has a record of maybe 1 or 2 wins and 2 losses. I do not count all the cupcakes what should be 30+ point wins as wins. IU has played 1 excellent team, 1 good team and maybe 2 average to decent teams so far and have lost 2 of those games…being competitive with 1 (UCon).

Harvard for Hillbillies
Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 5:28 PM EDT

I watched some Michigan highlights…They also played a cupcake, but wow was it fun watching McGary run the floor…Nearly a half dozen plays he brought the ball up full court and led the break distributing better than many point guards..Crisp and wicked no-look passes to his guards setting up on the perimeter or in the corners..What a thing of beauty. He’s just starting to get healthy and beginning to look his old NCAA tournament self. Anyone claiming he’s one-dimensional is just completely full of crap He even hit a nice jumper from the top of the key. Lefties can usually stroke it. He’s gonna be just fine as a shooter…All the other elements are in place..balance, unbelievable court vision, monster at the glass. What a force.

#9 Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 5:46 PM EDT

Go buy a darned Michigan hat then Harvard… Nobody gives a crap.

And you have the audacity to call others “Establishment”…

Harvard for Hillbillies
Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 7:27 PM EDT

What the hell is the problem? There’s all kinds of bloggers comment posters on here that have affections for more than just Hoosiers(e.g. Husky Tom)…And the journalists of Scoop can never hide their love affairs with their alma maters…How can we forget how Kartje was always putting Michigan ahead of Indiana in his Big 10 Power Rankings…? I’m sure Dustin was cheering for James Madison last season and has more than equal love for Penn State as well.

Michigan has more Indiana guys making an impact on their team than the Hoosiers: Irwin, Robinson, McGary, Dakich. Albrecht.

And what’s the big deal…All I hear on this site is lowlifes dragging Hollowell through the mud. Sure as hell don’t sound like Hoosier fans by the way they don’t stop riding the kid’s ass. Follow the LiveChats…There’s so-called Hoosier fans during the games that do nothing but hate on the kid? Much like Watford during the last two seasons, we’d be screwed without Hollowell.

Hoosier Clarion
Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 8:07 PM EDT

H4H please no more fertilizer. Dakich in 9 games has appeared in 5 for a total of 13 minutes or 2.6 mpg. Impact?

#12 Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 9:59 PM EDT

Leave me out of this and watch it with the bias accusations. You aren’t “sure” I was cheering for anybody because I don’t cheer on the job, nor do I pick favorites in anything I cover. Don’t act like I’ve given you reason to believe otherwise, because I haven’t.

#13 Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 10:34 PM EDT

DD, Troy had some open looks that he just didn’t make. His shot doesn’t look bad and should start falling with more consistency. The more troubling thing to me is his missed dunks. I can think of 3 or 4 on the season where he went for the highlight reel jam instead of just laying it in. And missed. Shooting 50% from the floor isn’t bad. Shooting 50% at the rim is. That turned out to be the difference between beating a good UConn team and losing by a single point. Could bite us again if he’s not careful.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Sunday, December 8, 2013 - 11:14 PM EDT

I saw the glimmer in your eye during the James Madison game. Dustin Dopirak was going home…..

Gosh, you people are touchy. It’s o.k. if people call me a “serpent” after they’ve hijacked my name. Heaven forbid I like seeing a kid from my hometown have a huge NCAA tournament. I’m still a Hoosier fan to the core…Just wish they’d realize they have a man at the helm that is all sales job and zero chalkboard. My only hope is to outlive his contract extensions.

Clarion-He’s already averaging more than papa did at IU and his jump shot is far more pure. This is the son of the man that stopped Jordan. Don’t mess with o9ffspring of MJ stoppers.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 12:04 AM EDT


Dustin Dopirak:
Not that anyone cares, but JMU’s band got a heck of a lot better since I left.

Dustin Dopirak:
JMU band pulls out Dirty Diana, wow. I gotta say, Tip of the hat there.

You can never hide the goosebumps for the alma mater. Nothing wrong with it.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 12:18 AM EDT

Chesterton H.S. always had a great band..Great swimmers considering the size of the school..And have I told anyone that their speech and debate teams regularly competed in national titles? Jim Gaffigan is also from Chesterton.

Monday, December 9, 2013 - 7:25 AM EDT

Mo Creek is playing some serious basketball. Just saying.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 7:37 AM EDT

Wow..You’re right. 25 pts against Maryland plus the game-winner. Delighted for the kid. Wonderful to see him having fun again.

Hoosier Clarion
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 9:05 AM EDT

H4H, I will not allow you to change the subject. We are talking about DD Jr. He has only attempted 4 shots, shooting % .250 and has 3 points total in 5 appearances. Hell of an impact. Sonny is no better shooter than Daddy. You have once again been caught making up blue sky lies to support your bazaar posts. You need to rein it in, your mud does not stick.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 9:34 AM EDT

Good Lord, Clarion. I know Dakich won’t be an impact. He’s a walk-on. But the other four aren’t too shabby(McGary, Robinson, Irvin, and Albrecht).

And Beilein added another walk-on from Fishers(Sean Lonergan)…Has a total of six players from Indiana. And don’t forget that he took a huge gamble on Zack Novak(another Chesterton kid full of heart and moxie)when no other major program would give the kid a serious look.

I tend to think he brought Dakich Jr. in because he likes his spunk and leadership. What a kid brings in practice and behind-the-scenes positive energy translates where the stat sheets never live. And the season is young…Sometimes walk-on’s surprise. Didn’t a Butler walk-on burn us last year at the Crossroads Classic?


Found a link to a heartwrenching story on Crean’s twitter page. I don’t place it here to pass nay sort of judgment…A testing of faith and a lot to be absorbed. Within the tragic tale are lessons that could help save a life. Beautifully written by an IDS journalist. Call or hug your kid today.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 10:05 AM EDT

Oh, and I didn’t intentionally lie about anything. When you posted Dakich Jr.’s mpg as 2.6, I must have thought it was ppg. I need reading glasses. I didn’t dive into the stats to look at his game-by-game totals that would have led me back to knowing I misread your stat category.

But let’s be honest, daddy DD was certainly never much of a scorer while in cream and crimson. Hell of a defender that average somewhere around 3 ppg for his 4-year career.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 10:12 AM EDT

INDIANAPOLIS – Butler has a way of creating its own fairy tales, so its latest should have come as no surprise.

Of course, the unranked Bulldogs would hand No. 1 Indiana its first loss of the season. Of course, Butler would do it without two of its best players, who’d both fouled out during a 17-second span late in the second half. And then without a third player, who’d picked up his fifth foul midway through overtime.

Of course, the game-winning shot – a floater that bounced off the backboard and around the rim not once, not two or three but four (!!) times – would come from a sophomore walk-on who averaged 0.8 points per game in his career entering Saturday.

Hoosier Clarion
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 10:21 AM EDT

Fine, but I still will not allow you to change the subject. So either the word impact or the name Dakich does not belong in post 10. Don’t forget to get a Blue hat honoring Beilein along with another load of fertilizer.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 11:22 AM EDT

Do you think Elston had a positive impact on our team last year? Do you think his attitude and his leadership in the locker room was found on a stat sheet? “Impact” can be defined as presence and numerous other immeasurable attributes.

Andrew’s daddy played for Knight. Knowledge passes from practices Dan had under one of the best coaches in the game to his own son. The son can bring a lot of knowledge and ideas into that Michigan locker room. That’s another form of “impact.”

Don’t you find it amazing that Dan Dakich’s son is playing on a squad that employed the villain coach Crean chased down like a crazy man last year? Dakich kicked kids off the Hoosier team that played under that assistant scumbag. But he has no problem with his own boy only a few chairs down the bench from a Sampson cohort? Isn’t it all just very strange? I do declare…I do declare..There just seems to be so much hypocrisy in so-called ‘Hoosiers’ everywhere.

I grouped names together as examples…They are all Indiana kids. Their heart, their game, their stats, their names, their knowledge, their leadership, their gumption, their locker room enthusiasm, and their collective Indiana spirit means a hell of a lot to that Michigan team. Zack Novak was no hall of fame college basketball player, but he brought immeasurable leadership and heart. Beilein is sucking that heart out of much of Indiana….He’s drinking our milkshake. A son of a high-profile Indiana radio jock that played for Knight, a star from the heart of Hamilton County, and unsung NW Indiana recruits that come up big on the biggest stage when the March lights shine most bright. Yes, collectively there is a ton of Indiana “impact” on that Michigan squad.

And the one not from Indiana, Stauskas, plays like the closest thing I’ve seen to Larry Bird in three decades. Fearless pure shooter showing growing versatility. Damn Beilein found the next ‘Hick from French Lick’ from a Canadian province where French is the go-to language.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 3, 2012 – 6:57 PM UTC

I don’t know, Chet..I saw flashes of Larry Bird. There was a presence you don’t often see from a freshman. I think that kid is going to be special. Doesn’t make me a Michigan fan. I’ll be honest..He’s going to change that Michigan team into a very dangerous bunch.

I hate being right.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 11:39 AM EDT

…Canadian province where French is the [second] go-to language.

#26 Monday, December 9, 2013 - 1:45 PM EDT

By “unheralded recruits from NW Indiana” you mean the #2 ranked prospect in his Junior class… That unheralded recruit?

And by the way, can you please specify how you find Bird and Stauskas similar… Let’s see they are both white and can both shoot… I guess I see a lot of Bird in Trevor Cooney…

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 2:13 PM EDT

He wasn’t getting any press during the season…High ranking but rather ignored because of his lack of PT and early weight issues. Since you’re going to nitpick, then we’ll go with “unexpected major contributor” in the postseason. Of course, Albrecht lit it up in the championship game. I’m pretty sure he could be called unheralded…And Novak could most definitely be completely unheralded since he had zero offers from major programs until Beilein put him in a Michigan uniform. And I would imagine that unrelenting attitude and gumption he saw in Novak provided him with extra incentive to go hard after another Chesterton kid.

Then again, if you would like posts from my Basketblog days when I was noticing McGary long before he was getting national attention, I’ll be happy to be of service.

Stauskas? It’s more the presence and the motor. He’s only a sophomore and his improvement and athleticism are really beginning to show. Of course, there will never be another Bird. But there’s far more versatility in Stauskas’s game that what I’ve seen from Cooney(albeit a solid looking guard and a very impressive long range bomber). These two clips are rather fun(Dakich announcing the one from an actual game..”ATTACKIN’ ATTACKIN’..ATTACKIN’..That was athletic, quick, and definite.”): (not even sure if I ever saw Bird go that hard) (driveway or warm-ups on the homecourt hardwood, that’s just scary proficiency)

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 2:20 PM EDT

oops. Here’s the correct 2nd clip:

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 2:33 PM EDT

One day we’ll do lunch in Chesterton..I’ll take you for the tour..We’ll visit old Chesterton High and Goldsborough Gym(now a middle school)where an unheralded Harvard was once recruited by the varsity basketball coach but remained unheralded. We’ll cruise the streets and listen to James Gang’s Funk 49…I’ll take you to the barn in the country where I spent six hours a day and many a summer night shooting deep threes on a dirt and grass court far less glamorous than the uppity suburban paradise with professional hoop Stauskas is showing off.

I’ll cruise you past the home of Mitch and I’ll tell you stories his father and all his weed-smoking friends..I’ll show you where legends begin.

How’s that sound, lobster breath? Sounds like a fallacy because you know I’m a serpent that doubles as a chicken eating its own excrement.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 2:46 PM EDT

Grab a box of Kleenex

#31 Monday, December 9, 2013 - 3:19 PM EDT

First clip shows exactly why I’m confused about the bird comparison…

2nd clip… If he’d actually had a rebounder wortha damn he probably would have gone 82-84… Guy was awful.

I love it though. Your comparison has to do with complete intangibles. Presence and motor… Classic. You know who else reminds me of Bird? Gary Payton – now that is somene with Presence and motor.. Plus he and bird were two of the greatest shtuff-talkers of all time.

Yeah, Bird and Payton…

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 4:07 PM EDT

Isn’t the dividing line between near immortal greatness and legendary players most often the intangibles? The clutch shooting..the fearlessness to take and bury the big shots..the vision…knowing when to involve the other scorers and the knowing when to take over the game…the patience to let a game come to you rather than force your talent and athleticism into the picture.

A thousand athletes with the stroke and skills…Only a handful with the ability to almost leave their skills and have the soul of something never measurable take over. I wish I could bottle it..clone it…put it in your pretty stat book. How do make a Walter Payton that flips himself up in backward somersault after punishing six tacklers where one finally runs him out of bounds?…a Joe Namath that has such statuesque presence in the pocket and coolness under pressure? Who do you replicate the footwork of a Muhammad Ali and the personality and wit a brutal slayer mixed with verbal charm and combative intellect.

The intangibles cannot be taught. They are gifts from God. I said I saw flashes of Bird…I don’t know what I’m seeing…I can’t put it into X’s and O’s and a box of Cheerios. Stauskas is a little quirky and surprises with his unexpected eruptions of talent that catches you off-guard in his style of herky-jerky movements. Maybe it’s the underselling of his skills …the coyness…the poker player in his game that made me have some thoughts of the great Bird. He’s got something special and you’re not going to teach it with all the hours the best basketball tutors.

Double Down
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 4:26 PM EDT

I am weary of the tireless artillery barrage from Harvard’s fortress of self regard.

Whether McGary is the second coming of Pau Gasol, or whether Stauskas turns out to fall woefully short of Basketball Jesus’s greatness, we will doubtless be regaled with epic poetry in honor of Havard’s genius.

In the meantime, is there anyone around here that cares about discussing the current Indiana Hoosiers who have another game tomorrow night?

Monday, December 9, 2013 - 5:02 PM EDT

Trying to be polite. Waiting for Harvard to get done.

Monday, December 9, 2013 - 5:42 PM EDT

Anyway. Oakland. 2&7. Loss to NC, UCLA and Gonzaga. Two players 6’10 plus a 6’9 and 6’8. After IU they play Michigan State. Most of the team from Michigan and Ohio. So I guess it’s not Oakland, Ca? KenPom rank of #160 to IU’s #38. Could be a good game with their experience, even with the losses.

Like to see more of our ‘next 5 up’ get more play time. Give them a full 15-20 minutes. Would like to see a defensive emphasis game. Seems too many guys are having a ‘career’ scoring night against us. Not too many non-conference games left to try different things. More Austin. More Hanna. More Fisher. Like to see them slow down half a step & decrease TO’s? Really would like to see Yogi shoot better than 5 of 13. (more Austin more Hartman). Like to see players come out of the game because of fouls, or tired or poor play instead of – just because.

Oakland know as the ‘Grizzlies’. Month ago a dead bear found on 37 south of Bloomington. Anyway. May not mean anything. Quote on that story – IHP spokesman said he ‘believes the bear was mostly killed somewhere else’.

OK – Next.

Monday, December 9, 2013 - 7:57 PM EDT

Notre Dame game on ESPNU. Brooke Weisbrod part of the game commentators. Knowledgeable, well-spoken, nice smile and comments on the current game. Don’t have to listen to the babble about when they played IU 20 yrs ago or how they shut down Jordon. BIg Ten network needs to grab her.

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 8:20 PM EDT


Keep it rollin’..I really enjoy your posts.

If the wife wasn’t monopolizing the remote tonight(it’s rare so I can’t really complain…we only have one cable box), I’d tune into your ESPNU game and listen to Brooke. Finding pleasant, less cynical, knowledgeable basketball commentators is rare these days. I like a certain amount of Dakich, but then I tire. Dare I say that I used to enjoy games on ESPN a lot when Musburger teamed up with Knight? Musburger has always been one of my favorites…

Harvard for Hillbillies
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 10:18 PM EDT

Damn..I started to tear up to Ditka’s speech. I hope Sweetness is smiling….

GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hoosier Clarion
Monday, December 9, 2013 - 11:41 PM EDT

Harvard you never prove anything. All you do when challenged is change direction or change the subject. The answer is Dakich Jr. has made not +, not -, but 0 impact at Meatchicken and should not be included in the list of current Indiana boys on the roster who have. Stauskas = Bird, again no proof.


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