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  • travlin hoosier says:

    Thanks guys. I look forward to your summaries and insights. Now if you could have the sound in sync with your lips that would be perfect. Well, that and continued victories.

  • Travlin,
    Thanks for pointing that out. I noticed that when I watched one of the videos and I wasn’t sure if it was just playing weird on my computer. I have no idea how to fix it, but knowing it’s actually an issue is at least a start. Thanks.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Harvard for Hillbillies
    Monday, December 3, 2012 – 1:35 PM UTC

    Wow…Did anyone catch that Nik Stauskas kid in his debut starting role for Michigan? Kartje must be riding a real high..Michigan will give us all we can handle.

    Bring back Kartje’s Big 10 Power Rankings!

    Monday, December 3, 2012 – 2:32 PM UTC

    It was Bradley, for goodness sake. They have wins over UPPER Iowa and Texas-Pan American.

    Let’s wait and see.

    Harvard for Hillbillies
    Monday, December 3, 2012 – 6:57 PM UTC

    I don’t know, Chet..I saw flashes of Larry Bird. There was a presence you don’t often see from a freshman. I think that kid is going to be special.

    Flash forward 15 months…Stauskas’s stats today vs. MSU in a CBS game with a ton of national attention:

    25 pts, 9-13 fg, 3-5 3-pt, 5 assists. Yup, Harvey found the closest thing to Larry Bird that the Big 10 will ever see. And it took him all of one minute in December ’12 to see it coming.

  • Double Down says:

    Harvard, I just checked my list of people who are allowed to talk about themselves in the third person. The checklist listed in “The Handbook for Acceptable Illeism” is as follows:

    Rickey Henderson
    Bo Jackson
    Muhammad Ali
    Bob Dole
    Jimmy from Seinfeld

    In Chapter 2, it says there are a certain class of people who should never be allowed to speak of themselves in the third person:

    Internet commenters

  • Punjab says:

    Punjab does what he wants, Harv. Let him know if you need some tips on how to deal with internet bullies.

  • Double Down says:

    Nobody puts Punjab in a corner.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:


    Why won’t Harvey’s post go through? You sure like playing your games.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Wow…Greg Oden putting in some meaningful minutes for the Heat against the Bulls. Never thought I’d see him on a court again. Such a massively large man. I never realized how big and wide he is. He shoved Joakim Noah and Carlos Boozer around like they were peas on a plate.

    So much promise when he came out of high school…It’s nice to see him have a chance again. And what a place to get that chance..? He’s out on the floor while LeBron sits out a rare missed game. How strange it all was to see. I don’t watch much NBA, but this moment made me happy for a man that just looks like he found something of hope in the least likely of places. His Miami teammates appear to really embrace him.

  • Seahawk Tom says:

    Double Down, I’ve tried to work on that with Harvard for years (3rd person thing); never could get him to stop.

    I was also surprised to see Oden out there. Thought he’d never see the light of day again in the NBA. If he’s lucky, he may be the next Andrew Bynum one day…consistent 15-game seasons.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Completely false statement…During the days of Basketblog over at IDS, Harvard spoke primarily in the 5th person.

    And Harvard also alleges that it is far better to speak in the 3rd person as one commenter than to sneak around on blogs as multiple persons speaking in the singular…Harvard tried to work with Husky(a.k.a Double Down) for years to abandon the safety of playing games and taking jabs at Crean and fellow commenters while using different screen names.

    Harvard failed miserably in such a pursuit. And sadly, the use of multiple screen names is something Jeremy and Dustin feel no need of moderation. All they care is that the site is PG-13/Christian family values oriented. When it comes to slithery deceptions and dirty tricks by people that sneak around in the constant cowardly need of changing and hijacking of screen names, their morality and perception of right vs. wrong sinks to a sad very low bar.

    How honorable to let one commenter pose falsely as four snidely lowlifes so this defeated genius can attack Harvard’s writing techniques. How jealous they swim around in a clouded sea because they simply wish they could write and be as genuinely honest as me.

  • Double Down says:


    Do you seriously believe I’m….I mean, Double Down, is the same person as Husky Tom? I take it this is the same name as Seattle Tom?

    I believe a little interjection from the find moderators of this blog can confirm my identity as being the sole property of myself.

    BTW, on the note of your writing techniques: I’m not interesting in changing anything you do. But I do love to rib you about it. We all tease and make jokes here. One day you’ll learn how to dish in just as you so freely dish out, snookums. I’m going to start calling you Bruce Webber until then.

  • Double Down says:

    However, I think Seattle Tom and I should start our West Coast Establishment group. That way Bruce Webber now has to fight on 2 fronts. While he’s trying to surround Jeremy and Dustin in Stalingrad, Tom and I will be out West planning the invasion of Normandy.

    Carry on.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Washington Apple
    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 10:35 AM UTC


    Good assessment. I agree about Dumes. When Creek went down, I envisioned Dumes potentially being able to fill a chunk of that scoring void. WHile he does tend to brick a lot of ill-advised 3′s, he is a confident shooter and can get in grooves. I call him a poor man’s Rod Wilmont.

    One correction: it’s Jordan Hulls, so you can’t say “Hull’s” calm game. You have to put the apostrophe after the final s:

    Hulls’ calm


    Hulls’s calm

    Oops, I dared to not talk about sports…

    Hoosier Clarion
    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 11:06 AM UTC

    The next dissertation I write I’ll consult a thesaurus. But for a blog communication it would be a bit much.

    Washington Apple
    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 11:26 AM UTC


    What you need is a grammar textbook. A thesaurus is for finding similes or alternative word choices.

    Point taken, though.

    Hoosier Clarion
    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 11:33 AM UTC

    As I said I would consult a thesaurus.

    Washington Apple
    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 12:46 PM UTC

    Well, the thesaurus won’t help you with the Hull’s/Hulls’s distinction, so I’d save the trouble.

    It also won’t help you spell “confidant” correctly.

    GO Buckeyes- beat the Quacks!

    Hoosier Clarion
    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 3:51 PM UTC

    WOW! A blog English teacher.

    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 3:57 PM UTC

    Just following through with my part of the No Clarion Left Behind Act.

    Husky Tom
    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 9:27 PM UTC

    Jay, first, there is a difference between typos and simply not knowing correct grammar. I make sure to read my posts many times over if I am going to try to make a contentious point, because I know how much bad grammar can

    If I do make an error, I welcome the corrections. I don’t try to disparage or dismiss those who may correct me, or accuse them of being too intellectual. I have plenty to learn.

    Husky Tom
    Friday, January 1, 2010 – 9:31 PM UTC

    “…can ruin an argument. Case and point, my last post.”

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    BTW, on the note of your writing techniques: I’m not interesting….

    You can say that again. Now you two grammar kittens may carry on clawing at every envied Harvard paragraph serving as your scratching post. It’s cute.

    No surprise that the cute scholarly geniuses of the West had to hire Steve Alford to relearn all forgotten from the game under Indiana’s Wooden. I guess the last remaining b-ball pyramid pop-up books were finally sold at auction to Bill Walton.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Have you guys seen Crean’s early picks for his 2018 recruiting class….?

  • Double Down says:

    That’s Southern California there, Bruce. Us folks north of that arid piece of wasteland feel sorry for Steve that he’s now stuck in Westwood. Granted, I live in a place that gave contributed Eli Holman to the Indiana family and arborists around the world are gnashing their teeth to this day.

    It’s fun to see you lash out. I must say, Bruce, your posts have gotten a lot better lately. Even worth actually reading. I knew you had it in you. Maybe you just needed to move to Kansas to find your voice.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Jeremy has donned the rhinestone cape….

    Double Down- Be careful with the Double Verb(e.g. gave contributed). It’s a verb. Live with the choice and move progress on.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    “Double Down” and “Steve in Ottawa” unveil their commenting strategy for a Scoop counterattack on Harvard’s first person. Code name: Less arid Walton talks Bobby Knight.

  • Jeremy Price says:

    I’m not donning anything — wait, that came out wrong. This is the first time I’ve checked in for about 24 hours (my mistake). For whatever reason, your posts got caught in the spam filter again, not 100 percent why, but it happens. Also, I can assure you that Double Down is not Husky/Seattle Tom. Carry on.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    The mysterious “spam filter” again…You gotta hater somewhere in those Scoop offices, Jeremy. It appears they enjoy wearing your cape while you’re on bathroom break holding down the White Castle thrown.

    And Husky Tom has used numerous aliases in the past that you’ve allowed on here. Why should I believe you now? And have we not had plenty of commenters declare just how easy it is to create numerous IP addresses to prevent simple detection of commenting under multiple screen names? You’ve done nothing to prevent such breaches and your assurances mean very little to a guy that’s seen his name hijacked and also witnessed a commenter using multiple names to attack.

    But because I think you’re an honest man, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt in giving an answer that is sincere and to the best of your knowledge.

    And was it really necessary to attack me for just a little patting of myself on the back for predicting how Stauskas was to be a future star of the Big 10?

    You gotta admit, there’s quite the jealous crowd of scholars on here. Then again, I guess you should thank Harvard for attracting so many scholarly world travelers and masterminds of hoops that simply want to operate in my hillbilly shadows. It’s often frighteningly dead around here until I bring out a bit of the mojo that gets under their brilliant skins.

  • Seahawk Tom says:

    Harvard, my previous post was the first time I’ve checked in in at least 2 weeks (I missed you).

    And for what it’s worth, I haven’t played the shape-shifting game for many years now. Whenever you/Remora/Rico stopped pirating my name a few years back, I no longer felt any need.

    Finally, I’ve never ever used ‘Seattle Tom’.

  • Jeremy Price says:

    I’ll second what he said about Seattle Tom. My mistake.

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    I’ve never pirated your name. Now you’re simply dealing with old guilt via a false accusation.

    But I do miss you too….Miss your passionate writing.

    Double Down has a very similar style in his adolescent attacks. The Weber reference seemed right up your alley(much like the EJ hating and “surrogate son” stuff you enjoyed using on me when I defended Gordon). I guess you’re just brothers of another mother.

    Wow…Why is UCLA only barely breaking into the Top 25 when they sit in 2nd place of the Pac 12. And they only lost to Arizona by 4 points. Is this the West Coast Establishment’s hatred for anyone with Bobby connections manifesting itself in biased evaluation what appears to be a pretty damn solid team? Is the Pac 12 that crappy beyond Arizona?

  • Harvard for Hillbillies says:

    Oh, almost forgot.

    And I thought the commenter on here using the name “Confused.” was possibly you. It was an unfamiliar screen name and they told me that they enjoyed my’ Top 10 new nicknames for Assembly Hall’ post. They finished their comment by closing with a “How are you doing, Harvard?”…It felt like maybe someone that actually cared. I thought it might be you. Guess I have a secret admirer from the old days. Who knows…Maybe Jeremy knows if that particular IP address is matched to an old regular…? I don’t get many compliments, so it left me a bit perplexed to the mysterious contributor.

  • Seahawk Tom says:

    Thanks to Jeremy for the alibi.

    Once upon a time I used to care enough to write long and passionate posts. But those were different days of Hoosier fandom. Back then, it was easy for me to get wrapped up in the excitement of being new to the IU universe, and having new gunslinger heroes like Rod Wilmont, Earl Calloway and DJ White to cheer on. I liked those final Mike Davis teams that were good but not great. As a fan, they got you on board, but they didn’t set the bar so high that you’d cry in your beer after a narrow tourney loss.

    The transition to the Sampson regime was still plenty interesting, even though thoroughly unsatisfying. HIs teams’ underachieving kept me motivated to continue writing, especially when certain fans persisted in believing that simply having Eric Gordon on the team was a sort of championship in itself, no matter the mind boggling losses to Brian Butch, Xavier, UConn, ISU etc etc that his teams suffered. Then, when the scandal broke, the polarization that ensued left plenty of interesting stuff to write about.

    It’s been years since I’ve felt inspired to write a decent post about IU. Not sure whether it’s the milder and sometimes uninspiring nature of our teams, or whether I’m just tired of inventing battles where they don’t exist. Still, I have fun checking in and seeing what all the old Scoopers are up to.

    I wasn’t the “mysterious contributor,” but I share his sentiments. Hope you’re doing well, Harvard.

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